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Chris Benoit and family found dead

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by HandsomeHarley, Jun 25, 2007.

  1. Rusty Shackleford

    Rusty Shackleford Active Member

    OK, not to sound overly gruesome here, but I don't see how the crippler crossface could actually kill a person. Inflict severe pain, sure. But Benoit's arm always went across his opponent's face, not their neck -- it didn't restrict breathing.

    And I've not seen that reported anywhere else, so I'm wondering how a UK-based paper would get that and not any papers stateside. I'm not saying it's wrong, I just don't necessarily believe it -- more like somebody saying how morbid it would be if he had used his finishing move, and reporting that he did, whether or not that was really the case.
     
  2. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    I've seen it in a couple different stories this week. I think AP had it at one point as well.
     
  3. SportsDude

    SportsDude Active Member

    That is just ... wow. I don't have the words.
     
  4. HandsomeHarley

    HandsomeHarley Well-Known Member

    No way.

    If Benoit did, in fact, kill his son, it would have had to be something of a side or rear choke, across the front of the throat.

    The crossface is nothing like that.
     
  5. HandsomeHarley

    HandsomeHarley Well-Known Member

    A paragraph from wrestlingobserver.com:

    --Astin was indicted on seven federal counts of distributing painkillers in an illegal manner, as in for reasons other than the treatment of disease. The names of people he is accused of doing this with were not released. It is not known whether any of the people named in the sealed indictment are pro wrestlers, but it is known Chris Benoit is not one of them. The raid of Astin's office included looking at medical records to see if he was appropriately prescribing steroids to Benoit. The indictment regarded prescribing drugs like percoset, vidoprofen, xanax, lorcet and adderall to men with initials M.J. and O.G.

    I'm just speculating here, but I would bet even money that the O.G. is Oscar Gutierrez (Rey Misterio).
     
  6. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    The thought of Benoit using the Crippler Crossface (and aren't YOU glad you changed your screenname, Harley!) to kill his son is obviously disturbing, and so is Meltzer's report that Benoit's hanging death apparently took a really long time (he set the weight on the machine to 240 pounds, just a few pounds heavier than Benoit, so that made for a really slow death).

    But the big news in this utter explosion of horrific news is that Benoit was nearly a year's worth of steriods every month from May 2006 to May 2007.

    The WWE said Benoit tested negative for steroids during his last test ... April 10, 2007.

    Either the WWE flaks flat out lied that Benoit passed his test, someone fucked around with the test result, the test is easily circumvented since apparently Benoit got run of the mill drugs and not the designer ones from the BALCO case, or the teststesters are so bad they CAN'T pick up run of the mill drugs.

    Also, Harley, you're almost certainly right that OG is Rey. Not sure who MJ would be, since I don't think Marty Janetty juiced and really hope Mickie James doesn't.

    I've long thought that the WWE and wrestling in general is built in such a way that it can weather a lot of bad shit. It survived McMahon's steriod trial of the 90's and the Owen Hart/Eddy Guerrero deaths. But this is by a wide margin way worse, and every day the WWE looks in shittier and shittier shape.

    Tonight's Raw could be very, very interesting.
     
  7. Flash

    Flash Guest

    Actually, Foley writes in his autobiography (about 10 years ago, right?) that he was experiencing major memory loss. He often forgets how to get home and has to call his wife for directions.

    That's a pretty good start for overt signs of brain damage.
     
  8. farmerjerome

    farmerjerome Active Member

    To me, Mick Foley has been a pretty stand-up guy. The fact that he doesn't bullshit about what is really going on makes me say prayers for the other wrestlers.
     
  9. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    You know who I blame for most of this shit? The people who buy up all the tickets, that's who. It's obviously fake; it's badly acted; it's stupidly scripted; and, worst of all, it's the fans who keep screaming for more. And when the badly acted outrageous shit gets boring and old, the fans tune out until it's made even more outrageous.

    Call it entertainment all you want, but the people who are entertained by "wrestling" have the same mentality as those who would be entertained by getting a 2-year-old drunk and watching him get sick.
     
  10. HandsomeHarley

    HandsomeHarley Well-Known Member

    That's a pretty lame piece of logic from someone who obviously has his head stuck up his ass.
     
  11. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Let me guess ... you're a wrestling fan? Well, that means a 70 IQ would make you the smart one among your peers.
     
  12. HandsomeHarley

    HandsomeHarley Well-Known Member

    My IQ is 135 assface.
     
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