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Climate Change? Nahhh ...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Riptide, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    Please stop it. To refresh your memory, this what you posted ....."The economics of climate change policy is likely to hit middle class families a lot harder than climate change will"

    I said that was wrong because what's happening to the climate right now is already costing people hundreds to thousands of dollars out of their pocket through cooling costs or insurance costs or other things that I can't think of at this time in the morning. More people are dying of heat because they live in places where there is no cooling infrastructure because they've never needed it. Your assertion that the policy to address climate change is going to be more costly than actual climate change is the fairy tale. I don't care if you don't believe in climate change because I can see what's going on around the world, as most of us can, in terms of glacial ice being lost, extreme weather, and decades old drought. It doesn't take a crystal ball to see what's happening to the world. And that people are going to pay for that financially and with their lives.
     
  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member



    I'M SURE IT'S NOTHING.

    Record-Breaking Rains Flood Death Valley National Park | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine

    “It is the hottest place in the world and the driest place in North America. This week’s 1,000-year flood is another example of this extreme environment. With climate change models predicting more frequent and more intense storms, this is a place where you can see climate change in action.”
     
  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  4. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Probably nothing. I’m sure Chicago has lots of a/c in old buildings.

    U.S. could see new ‘extreme heat belt’ by 2053 with millions hit by 125 degree heats
     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    I'm sure it's fine.
     
  6. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Good Lord, the level of vitriol directed @Alma's way ... Even the IPCC's studies all point to very, very modest climate change related costs even if nothing is done. If I recall correctly, the gain from doing everything "right" is something like one year's worth of global GDP growth.

    The climate changes ... twas ever thus, twill ever thus be ... and (this is key) people change the way they live.
     
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  7. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    It’s amazing how every real solution to every problem includes them living the exact way they do now.
     
  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    We can all try to change how we live to help, even in small ways. Some do, some don't. Some people feel that doing their tiny bit for the cause isn't worth stressing over when Big Coal and Big Oil have people like Manchin in their pocket and can block the big steps that would make large gains in the fight against greenhouse gases. Greed and profit and their stock price is more valuable to the executive running those companies than any future benefit. It's going to take all of us doing everything we can both big and small to make a dent in the problem, and human nature is such that most of us will deny it and drag our feet on changing because we hate change and resent people who make us do it.
     
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  9. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    I don’t disagree it might be too late, but only because (I include myself) considered the people screaming about this in 1992 crazy people.

    So we stalled 30 years, just long enough to declare it too late to do anything.

    Funny how that worked.

    The other option was just counting on all this happening after you die.
     
  10. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    aka Boomers. The downfall of this once-great nation.
     
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  11. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    It’s a real winner politically. It’s the only situation, other than not fixing social security in the late 20th century, I can think of where you can promise a voter they can be selfish and never have to personally see the damage inflicted. Even infrastructure collapses within a lifetime. America vacillates between big and small government, anti-tax and spending sentiments. Fossil fuels, though? It was a binge we romanticized, made a part of the identity of what it meant to be an American. Created a system that is impossible to back out of. As if we didn’t design the system.
     
  12. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

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