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Climate Change? Nahhh ...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Riptide, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


     
  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    sure thing

     
  4. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    So kill the West’s environment to save its environmentally ignorant decisions?
     
  5. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    With a solution that only helps so long as we get consistent rain and not consistent drought and falling snow packs.

    We NeEd MoRe DaMs ignores the fact one of the biggest is in danger of running empty. But sure, let's build more to ensure that happens faster.
     
  6. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    When you reach the bottom of the glass, surely the answer is add more straws.
     
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  7. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Well, they can always build a pipeline and bring in water from the Mississippi River. It's not low right now...
     
  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    not great!

     
  9. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Climate responsibility. LOL. A company’s only responsibility is to its shareholders. Specifically, the amount of money in their pockets. Fuck everyone and everything else.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It's easy for you to say that. I mean, when you sold your home, you weren't concerned about mundane things like the price you got. And when you bought a car, you didn't shop, you just offered five times what it turned out they wanted from the next guy who came in. And you work a job all week and would never think of being compensated.

    . ... All of those companies have customers who are buying what they are selling. American Airlines is on that list. It's absurd to think that they are not going to keep on doing what they are doing when it's 1) perfectly legal and 2) they are growing capacity because there are so much for demand for their carbon-emitting flights. Pointing fingers at them is silly. ... but it's some amorphous, big bad guy causing the world to fall apart, not the person you are looking at in the mirror, so it is easy (and cheap).

    Those companies use silly climate buzzwords to placate the niche groups even getting anyone thinking about climate change (this is a PR battle, not a substantive battle), they set targets in the distant future to kick the can down the road, and they then greenwash the few particulars related to change that they are even specific about. They behave that way, because their CUSTOMERS are not pressing them to do what that climate group wants.

    They have little incentive to make the kinds of changes that group is pushing for, and even if they made changes, there is so much demand for the carbon-emitting goods and services that they offer, that others would fill the void to meet the demand. There is no magic wand that makes flights as cheap as they are, for example, while reducing emmissions.

    The idea that commerical concerns are going to effect climate change -- or that it would be incumbent on them to be a driver for it -- is absurd, when they have billions of customers who aren't demanding those changes (by not buying what they sell). But the broad mass of humanity doesn't get the silly "fuck everyone and everything else" label, it's Foxcomm or Nestle or Mercedes Benz.

    Nothing changes, unless one of three (or all three) things happen: 1) The world outlaws some of the behavior of those companies, or 2) people stop buying what they are selling, or 3) technologically things happen that allow us to have the kinds of things those companies offer for the same price or less, in a way that does not emit carbons to the same degree they currently are. The first of those things would require an adult conversation about how people's standards of livings would drop dramtaically, and that doesn't happen because they know people will almost certainly choose door B, the one that the people with the biggest climate concerns don't want.
     
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  11. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2023/02/13/gen-z-driving-less-uber/

    When Madison Corr was 18 years old and in her first year of college, she started the process of getting a driver’s license. Corr, who was living in New York at the time, got an adult learner’s permit, did drug and alcohol training, and put in 10 to 15 hours behind the wheel and attending driver’s ed classes. But when it came time to schedule a road test to get her license, she simply … didn’t. “I just felt like I didn’t need it,” she said.

    Now 24, she lives in Philadelphia and still doesn’t have a license. “My parents put a lot of pressure on me to get one,” she said. “But I haven’t needed one to this point. If there’s an emergency, I’ll call an Uber or 911.”

    Gabe Balog, 23, waited to get his license until he was 20 and didn’t get a car until two years later. “I didn’t want my parents teaching me,” he said. But he also felt ambivalence toward America’s car-centric culture, only getting a car because his job as a peer mental health worker required one. “It would be so much better for everyone if public transport were just more accessible.”

    Balog and Corr reflect a growing trend among Generation Z, loosely defined as people born between the years of 1996 and 2012. Equipped with ride-sharing apps and social media, “zoomers,” as they are sometimes called, are getting their driver’s licenses at lower rates than their predecessors. Unlike previous generations, they don’t see cars as a ticket to freedom or a crucial life milestone. The question — for American drivers and for the planet — is whether that trend will last.
     
  12. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Guess a lot of young people are avoiding super-high auto insurance rates.
     
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