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College basketball coaching carousel

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by micropolitan guy, Mar 5, 2012.

  1. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    I'd put UConn and, perhaps, Duke a notch below UNC, Kansas and Kentucky when it comes to the premier jobs. To me it's an outstanding job if there's something about the program itself that breeds success. Multiple coaches have come in and got it done at UNC, KU and UK.

    It will be interesting to see what happens at UConn and Duke after their legendary coaches hang it up. Look at Indiana, it's not a given those programs are going to keep it going after that happens.
     
  2. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    As great as the Calhoun era has been, I figure the next guy will have to deal with a lot of messes that were ignored because of Calhoun's stature, while also have to win. Not a good job to take. It's Wooden after UCLA, NC after Dean Smith..
    I still figure Illinois can't be that tough to win at. Hire the top AAU guy in Chicago as an assistant and watch the recruits start rolling in.
     
  3. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    The only way Illinois is going to get the talent John Calipari gets out of Chicago is to hire Calipari. Bruce Weber was too nice a guy to deal with those sharks.
     
  4. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    One hell of a recruiter. He built the group that took VCU to the Final Four last year (and it seems his successor is quite good at recruiting, too). Having worked with him for 14 months, I can tell you Anthony Grant is a bit of a different guy (not in a bad way) but he's an amazing leader with an incredible presence.
     
  5. Matt1735

    Matt1735 Well-Known Member

    Rumor has it that Marquette's Buzz Williams is who Illinois may be going after next...
     
  6. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I don't think Illinois is a consistent top-20 team, but one of the 20 top jobs given its conference, location and lack of a big time football program to compete for attention with.

    I do think there is a difference though between college hoops and football. Players being recruited to play top level basketball are used to playing in different parts of the country through AAU, making them probably more open to playing far from home than football players.
     
  7. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    OK, I'm talking myself out of the Illini as a top 20 program. Here's 30 and I'm guessing Illinois would be in the 20-30 range. I'm sure I forgot someone...

    Kentucky
    Kansas
    Indiana
    Michigan State
    UCLA
    Louisville
    North Carolina
    Duke
    Syracuse
    Arizona
    UConn
    Florida
    Ohio State
    Michigan


    Georgetown
    Marquette
    Purdue
    Missouri
    Texas
    Oklahoma
    Illinois
    Wisconsin
    Pitt
    Oregon
    Arkansas
    Maryland
    Notre Dame
    St. Johns
    Villanova
    Cincy

    Just missed: Memphis, Georgia Tech, Butler, Gonzaga, Cal, Stanford, NC State, West Virginia...
     
  8. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I could see Grant being very happy to be a bit under the radar at Bama.
     
  9. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Based on the jobs he turned down last year, I'd be a little surprised if he left.
     
  10. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    Williams would be a fool to leave Marquette for Illinois. As you might have gathered, I don't think terribly highly of that job, at least not for someone who is being well-paid at a solid program at a basketball-focused school like a Gonzaga, Butler, Marquette, VCU or Xavier. If you're a good coach at a mid-major whose administration doesn't aspire to those heights (and at all those schools, basketball is integral to their university branding), then Illinois is a great destination for you because, as Bubbler noted, you do have a chance of catching lightning in a bottle and getting into the top 20. In fact, I think for Illinois the best bet is a coach who took a middling program to the top of its mid-major conference, because that's the sort of position he would be in when he gets to Champaign.

    There are few major jobs I would think those coaches would consider. For example, the only other place that would appeal to Brad Stevens is Indiana, and with the job Tom Crean is doing right now, I don't think that position is going to be open for a while.
     
  11. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    To me, it would mean the 20 jobs where, if reasonable potential is met, you'll win big and sustain it, if you so desire to.

    Which means, you have support. You have recruiting base. You either have first-rate facilities or the ability to get them built.
     
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  12. rmanfredi

    rmanfredi Active Member

    By that definition, USC should be a Top 20 job.
     
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