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College football 2020 offseason thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by micropolitan guy, Apr 1, 2020.

  1. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    Well, guess what you can do?
     
  2. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

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  3. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    The whole white grievance class has never been told "fuck off" in its life. It's about time they (we) got used to it.
     
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  4. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

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  5. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Thanks.
     
  6. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    Copy desk, REPRESENT!
     
  7. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    And if every AD wants those kids to play, they don’t give a shit about these kids.
     
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  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Two things:

    1. We don't know how big the sample size is.

    2. The huge hanging curveball question in the story is whether, for years on end, anyone out there was using a cardiac MRI to detect myocarditis and, if not, whether there's a difference in detection between the standard methods and the CMRI.

    This graf is as close as the story comes to nailing this down:

    The primary tests for myocarditis are an echocardiogram (an ultrasound), an electrocardiogram (which records the heart’s electric signals) and a blood test that measures a protein that is excreted when the heart muscle is damaged. But Daniels said a cardiac M.R.I., which he called the gold standard of testing for myocarditis, might reveal the condition when the other tests do not, though there are occasional false positives.

    The next question is...to what degree might the thing that hardly anyone but this guy was using find proof of myocarditis - whether a false positive or the real thing - that the other tests wouldn't find, and if the standard methods can't find it - and if the CMRI can conceivably produce false positives - then how significant is what the CMRI finds?

    These are not small issues. If you had 20 athletes, and, of those 20, 3 were found with it, but, of those 3, only 1 could be detected through the standard methods, you're talking about the difference between 15% and 5%.

    Further...when you start testing non-symptomatic people for a battery of things they may have, you're bound, in 1 or 2 cases, to find something. To whit: a million people might get the flu in a given year. How many of them are getting a cardiac MRI to determine if they have myocarditis afterward? How many are getting anything at all?

    In order to adequately test the danger of COVID vs. the regular flu as it relates to that particular condition, you'd have to randomly study folks who had the flu with the same methods.

    (And before anyone says, well, look asshole, at all the people COVID has killed...remember...COVID behaves differently from, say, H1N1, which was far more deadly to young people than it was old. You can't just say "COVID is worse than the flu in A, so it is worse in B-Z, too.")
     
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  9. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    You're primarily looking at a cost issue. An echo, ekg and a troponin should be plenty to get a read on heart health in general. I don't have any kind of price schedule on what the MRI costs, but I'd bet that it's ten times as much as those three put together. Insurance companies are reluctant to give referrals for MRI unless a condition has been identified diagnostically. I would think that any school with a decent Covid plan already has gotten baseline ekg/echo/troponin on their players for comparison if anything changes.
     
  10. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  11. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

  12. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    They won't know how bad it already is for two to three weeks.
     
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