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College Football Week 13, in which LSU and Arkansas put a boot in your ...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Versatile, Nov 22, 2011.

  1. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    Serious question: Would anyone be saying this sort of thing if there were, in fact, a playoff? I mean, if Alabama and LSU were to meet at the end of a 16-team playoff or an eight-team playoff or a four-team playoff or whatever, wouldn't the situation be virtually identical? Should we have a series? Or should Alabama not even be eligible for a 16-team playoff simply because it already lost to one of the teams in the playoff?

    That won't happen.
     
  2. young-gun11

    young-gun11 Member

     
  3. Yodel

    Yodel Active Member

    As a rule, I tend to agree. But this year seems to be such an unusual set of circumstances. Who would you put ahead of Bama, assuming it beats the cows? Okie State's loss to Iowa State is so bad, and Stanford was crushed by Oregon. Alabama essentially tied LSU before losing in OT. Again, as a rule, I agree with what you say, but what can be done this year? Cancel the BCS title game and give LSU the title instead of a rematch?
     
  4. young-gun11

    young-gun11 Member

    Would Miami have gotten a second chance with the current system? Who knows, but I am willing to bet if they had tied ( since ot didnt exist) theyd have split the title.
     
  5. mb

    mb Active Member

    If OkState were to put the wood to Ok, I could see giving them a shot. Pokes lost in OT on the road. Bama lost at home while coming off a bye.
     
  6. young-gun11

    young-gun11 Member

    At home to the #1 team in the world. Or on the road to a barely-bowl-eligibe team. And you mention OkSt OT loss but Alabama's? Nahhh...nothing like not telling the whole story from both sides. BUT sureeee, whatever helps the BigXII guys sleep.

    (I get that youre making an argument for arguments sake, but it holds no water)
     
  7. McNuggetsMan

    McNuggetsMan Active Member

    Assuming the computer polls would not have changed the order of the human polls -- yes. They were number two in the last regular season poll with wins over FSU (4) and Michigan (11). Notre Dame was 1 with wins over #11, #2, and #5 (USC). West Virginia was 3 with wins over....pretty much nobody other than #17 Syracuse.

    So based on that schedule, I don't think WVU would have been ranked higher than Miami in the BCS Standings. So ND and Miami would have had a rematch in the Fiesta.
     
  8. mb

    mb Active Member

    Slow down. Do a search on me and SEC. Come back and apologize.
     
  9. mb

    mb Active Member

    As I've said more than once, I don't think LSU has anything to prove in relation to Alabama.

    Played at their place: Check
    Bama had an open date: Check
    No "we got screwed" calls: Check

    There's nothing Alabama can point to and say LSU had any kind of advantage going in. LSU shouldn't have to beat Alabama again. And if Bama does win a rematch, as folks have posted, I think LSU should win the AP title.
     
  10. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    LSU was also coming off a bye.

    Look, this system sucks. The solution isn't to screw over Alabama, which clearly has the resume of the No. 2 team in America. The solution is to overhaul the system entirely. You guys are sitting around trying to talk yourselves into Oklahoma State or Stanford or Virginia Tech or Houston to avoid a rematch, but how does that serve the fair point of having the two best teams play for the national title, as best we can discern. This is what we have for now. There is plenty of overhaul talk. But isn't it our responsibility, for now, to play out things in the fairest way under the current rules and current system?

    In addition, let's not forget that the human polls have Oklahoma State sixth. The computers, which everyone loves to complain about, actually want Oklahoma State in the title game.
     
  11. mb

    mb Active Member

    I'm not trying to talk myself into anything. I just don't think LSU should have to play Alabama ... or Oregon or Arkansas or anybody it has already beaten. And I was saying the same thing when it was OSU and Michigan.
     
  12. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    Again, if a single-elimination tournament were to work out to being an Alabama-LSU final, how would that be any different than the BCS ending up this way?
     
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