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Crisis in the Ukraine

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by NoOneLikesUs, Feb 28, 2014.

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  1. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Show me your evidence I'm wrong.
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    You make an assertion: John McCain knows more about foreign policy than Barack Obama.

    And the burden of proof is on me?
     
  3. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Sorry, you asserted Obama knows more than McCain. Prove it or shove it.

    I'm not going to let you intellectual cowardice lock another thread. Good day.
     
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Where?
     
  5. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    This thread has lost its way. Arguing about Obama's foreign policy chops is neither here nor there except for ideological point-making. The facts that are relevant is that NO President has ever responded to aggression by Russia in Eastern Europe with more than rhetoric and economic actions (some quite effective, like the Marshall Plan), NO President has been able to forestall such actions and most relevant of all, less than 20 percent of U.S. citizens think we should do anything in Ukraine. That last reality would tie the hands of President McCain as it has those of President Obama.
     
  6. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    He also got us out of two wars, one of which was based on a total fuck-up.

    Oh, and he got Bin Laden.
     
  7. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I like to think a number of people were responsible for Bin Laden's extermination, as the fruit of a laborious effort by a cast of thousands.
    But, yeah, it was all him.
     
  8. BenPoquette

    BenPoquette Active Member

    I seriously do not believe anyone thinks this. John Kerry has been awful...simply awful. What has he accomplished? Other than wagging his finger and throwing soft deadlines out there, Kerry has done nothing noteworthy. It's amazing how some of you on the left just cheerlead for these clowns without shame. I just shake my head in wonder.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    McCain could not have written that. Unless I missed it the word "feckless"
    was not used. It's McCain's favorite foreign policy word.

    I like McCain but wish he would go away now. He's like an aging pitcher
    that still has a fast ball from time to time but now gives up too many long balls.
     
  10. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Well, even Bartolo Colon at age 40 had a 2.65 ERA and 18-6 record so there's hope for McCain yet.
     
  11. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Hey, if he's responsible for some little IRS office in Ohio investigating some groups who are trying to dodge their taxes and if he's responsible for four people killed at BENGHAZI!, then why isn't he responsible for Bin Laden's death?
     
  12. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    In other words, our men and women should continue to get killed because if they don't, we're showing WEAKNESS!!!!

    Had he quit after the first graf, I would have totally agreed with him.
     
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