D-I men's basketball has its first openly gay player

BTExpress · Apr 11, 2014

Jason Collins, Michael Sam and Derrick Gordon are all making it easier for other male athletes to acknowledge their own sexual identity without fear of reprisal.
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Eh, I guess.

IMO, the odds of these athletes receiving a congratulatory call from the President of the United States and a back-page attaboy column in Sports Illustrated are substantially higher than the odds of them facing any kind of "reprisal".

Because it's 2014, not 2000.

Point of Order · Apr 11, 2014

jr/shotglass said:

Point of Order said:

I find it ironic, yes very ironic, thinking about how much time this SportsJournalists.com community has collectively spent -- and not being hypocritical here, that I spent when I was in this business -- covering, analyzing and debating spoon-fed, fluffy, insignificant bullshit in sports over the years, that anyone could debate the newsworthiness of this story.

Just a couple of weeks ago there was a page-long thread about a guy who witnessed one high school tennis player make a bad call in a high school tennis match against another high school tennis player, and his ethical dilemma about how to cover it. Not one snarky comment about "it's an effing high school tennis match! Who cares?!" But this? Yes. This is not news. This is worthy of generations-old butt-sex jokes. This.

Many of the bigots and clowns here sicken me. I come here less and less, and when I do I usually leave with the blessing of having reminded myself why I'm glad I'm no longer in this business. You think because you know grammar and can avoid run-on sentences that makes you some kind of genius. But most of what I see is herd mentality.
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Dismissing the relative importance of prep coverage to some small newspapers is not the best way to make your point.
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Had I dismissed the relative importance of prep coverage to some small newspapers, you might have a point.

93Devil · Apr 11, 2014

Point of Order said:

jr/shotglass said:

Point of Order said:

I find it ironic, yes very ironic, thinking about how much time this SportsJournalists.com community has collectively spent -- and not being hypocritical here, that I spent when I was in this business -- covering, analyzing and debating spoon-fed, fluffy, insignificant bullshit in sports over the years, that anyone could debate the newsworthiness of this story.

Just a couple of weeks ago there was a page-long thread about a guy who witnessed one high school tennis player make a bad call in a high school tennis match against another high school tennis player, and his ethical dilemma about how to cover it. Not one snarky comment about "it's an effing high school tennis match! Who cares?!" But this? Yes. This is not news. This is worthy of generations-old butt-sex jokes. This.

Many of the bigots and clowns here sicken me. I come here less and less, and when I do I usually leave with the blessing of having reminded myself why I'm glad I'm no longer in this business. You think because you know grammar and can avoid run-on sentences that makes you some kind of genius. But most of what I see is herd mentality.
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Dismissing the relative importance of prep coverage to some small newspapers is not the best way to make your point.
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Had I dismissed the relative importance of prep coverage to some small newspapers, you might have a point.
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You didn't.

I understand it as instead of having a normal discussion about a topic, which is unrelated to politics, we get posters who just want to amuse themselves by shitting all over a thread or trying to turn something, once again, into politics or what passes for politics in 2014.

zagoshe · Apr 11, 2014

Big news -- rumors swirling that a player is set to become the first openly straight player in the WNBA. Progress!!! Wow, the courage......

albert77 · Apr 11, 2014

bigpern23 said:

albert77 said:

I don't know; I get real sense of narcissism from these proclamations from athletes about being gay. Just kind of rubs me the wrong way.

I'd like to see it where some male athlete just casually starts dating another guy, without the fanfare, and when asked about it, either by teammates or the media, just shrugs his shoulders, says, "yeah, I am. So?" And walks away.

THAT to me would be real progress.
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I see your point and I think this will eventually come to be the reality, but right now, I do think announcements such as this are important.

Jason Collins, Michael Sam and Derrick Gordon are all making it easier for other male athletes to acknowledge their own sexual identity without fear of reprisal. They're seeing a largely positive reaction to these announcements and I'm sure that gives them a greater level of comfort that if they decide to come out, they'll be supported most (if not all) of their teammates, coaches and the media.
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Given how taboo the subject of gay male athletes has been, I guess I can see why some would consider it a big deal.

But I'm personally not comfortable with anyone making a big splashy deal out of personal relationships, whether they're gay or hetero. Some things should remain private.

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