Damn, Hillary's good

Sure she is. And on that day we'll also see these images.



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I wouldn't be surprised to see Obama making a strong comeback, especially because of his overwhelming popularity with young people.

on Facebook, a relatively new "Politicians I support" link is available.

Here are the numbers, and they're pretty staggering IMO...

Kucinich -- 6,660 supporters
McCain -- 8018 supporters
Romney AND Edwards -- both right around 14,000
Hillary -- 34,578
Obama -- 126,880 (including me)

If I had an my ideal ticket, it would be Obama-Edwards. I want to see Edwards in the Oval Office one day, I think he'd be a hell of a leader. I feel almost as strongly about Obama. HRC, though, just comes off as so damn scuzzy. Her weird Cheshire Cat grin just freaks me out.

I don't think the Reps have a real shot (and by don't think, I mean I pray they don't), but is a Clinton-Obama ticket really unelectable? Do we not think that there would be a huge increase in minority voters (IE a group that doesn't have the greatest voting record)?

thoughts?

 

I see.
Having been in the vicinity myself of a number of atrocities perpetrated by the British military and its Ulster Protestant subcontractors, amd having spoked to the families of those involved, can I just say that I'm glad all that stuff is largely over, and that Mrs. Thatcher was pretty damn murderous her own self. This American love for clumsy authoritarian Brits has always baffled me.
Bobby Sands, whatever you may think of him, was legitimately elected to Parlianment. His death was a disgrace, or would have been to anyone with a conscience.

 

When Edwards drops out -- sorrry Superfly, but it will happen -- it'll be interesting to see where his support goes. If they follow Obama more than Hillary, that could tighten the race. That's the only way I see HRC getting a serious challenge.

In terms of her overall electability, just look at some simple electoral math. All she has to do is carry every state that Kerry carried in '04 -- a pretty good bet since no states appear to be going from Blue to Red -- and capture one of the big Purple (tossup) states. That's it. That's all she, or any other Dem, would need.

 

Doc,

You have to remember something when reading those polls. Those are NATIONAL POLLS. We do not have a true NATIONAL ELECTION. She can be ahead by 90-10 in a national poll and still not be elected over anyone.

 

I would be shocked if the Facebook crowd voted in significant numbers in primaries, and I doubt that there are too many who are from states with early ones.

 

Why would you pray that the "Reps" don't have a real shot? You don't like any of Canidates? You don't like Republican party in general?

What happens if a Republican ends up being best canidate available?

 

The electoral college math works in Hillary's favor, unless California changes the way it distributes its votes. Currently they are all or nothing, but the talk is a switch to who wins each congressional district.
As noted previously, you need 270 to be president. If Hillary pulls all of Kerry's states that's 260 and gets two states to flip - Arkansas, New Mexico - she's president since they combine for 11 votes.
Her two most likely veeps - Wesley Clark, Bill Richardson - hail from, wait for it, Arkansas and New Mexico.
Plus a Hillary win in Arkansas wouldn't be surprising even if she didn't have Clark on the ticket. As noted earlier, it isn't a national election, so the polls don't matter. That was supposed to be a slam on Hillary, but it isn't. Hillary's crowd has already worked out the math.
And who gives a flying rat's ass about the facebook crowd. Kids can't or don't vote in large enough numbers to make a difference in most states.

 

If the 55 votes that California has are proportioned that would have major effect on election.

Say the electorial votes were split - 30 Democrat and 25 Republican instead of all 55 going to Dem - It would like losing a big vote state like Ohio.

It sounds like this bill could slide through.

 

Yes, electoral-suppression scam artist is now attempting another scam.
We should keep an eye on this.

 

Good piece in the New Yorker by Hertzberg (I believe) about this.

 

Yes - excellent piece that first has cast national spotlight on issue.