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Damn, Hillary's good

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by spinning27, Aug 7, 2007.

  1. jimmymcd

    jimmymcd Guest

    That electoral change should never come close to being made law. Stupid idea, and dangerous constitutionally.
     
  2. crimsonace

    crimsonace Well-Known Member

    Already happened, in Maine & Kansas.
     
  3. Actually, and I hate to say this, it probably is constitutional. The Constitution allows the states to elect its electors according to their own individual rules. There's nothing in there about winner-take-all. So if this is going to die, and given the way California insists on being a crackhead for initiative petitions, it's going to have to be killed at the polls.
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member


    It's done that way now in Maine and Nebraska. Votes are split by district depending on which canidate got more votes.

    In state like California this would have huge impact.

    New Yorker story give it reasonable chance of passing .
     
  5. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    I say get rid of the Electoral College, but barring that from happening, every state should be the same.
    A friend covers politics in Cali and she said that it has had a real low profile out there. The New Yorker article was the first thing that got people really interested, but it hasn't created a buzz the way other things have.
     
  6. Not good.
    I say low turnout and this this passes.
     
  7. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    The New Yorker made it sound that way. If it does the canidates will be spending a lot of time there come the fall of 2008.

    Instead of turkey hunting in Ohio, Hillary will be surfin in Laguna
     
  8. jimmymcd

    jimmymcd Guest

    Exactly, Jay. The rules should be the same in every state. What're the chances of this being run up to the Supreme Court at any time?
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    You boys better go read The Federalist Papers this weekend and bone up on "States Rights". They'll be a quizz on Monday.
     
  10. States Rights lost a big battle at Gettysburg, Boom.
    However, there's no way to eliminate the electoral college without amending the Constitution. None.
     
  11. RedSmithClone

    RedSmithClone Active Member

    That's correct Fen.

    But as far as Hill's Veep, I don't remember who mentioned it, but Wes Clark and Richardson? I think there may be a pretty damn big backlash against Hill if Obama finishes a strong second and isn't on the ticket. I think she may lose a large number of the youth vote as well as minority. I understand Richardson is a minority as well, but Obama is there man.
     
  12. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    Large number of the youth vote?
    So 11 of the 15 that vote won't vote for Hillary?
    Courting the youth vote isn't smart politics. The young don't vote.
    Here's how it goes, Obama doesn't bring anything to the ticket. As hard as this might be to swallow, Hillary's husband is more beloved in the black community than Barack. So the black vote is locked in, plus blacks almost always vote Democratic.
    Obama doesn't hail from a swing state, whomever runs as a D will win Illinois.
    So what will happen is Barack will conceed, he'll say that he can do for more the country staying in the Senate, where he can use his strong showing to get a leadership position.
    Richardson can bring the Hispanic vote if he is on the ticket or guaranteed a cabinet position. So New Mexico, Colorado and, maybe, Arizona are all suddenly in play. Florida seems a good guess and if Ohio turns, as it likely will, you are talking 315 to 320 electoral college votes.
    And that's what the kids, who don't vote, call a landslide.
     
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