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Damn, Hillary's good

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by spinning27, Aug 7, 2007.

  1. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Most-unlikely, given the sterling respect/service the GOP has provided the sustaining middle class over the past four decades . . . not to mention that the heavy historial burden of Fredo/Cheney will prove very tough to explain away, for an indefinite period . . .
     
  2. spinning27

    spinning27 New Member

    Bingo. Obama contributes nothing as a VP. His poll numbers among blacks are pretty bad given that he's the most legitimate black candidate ever, and he comes from a solid blue state. (As an aside, I engage random people in political discussion, and the working class black people I encounter generally love Clinton and Gore and are very indifferent about Obama, which to me backs up those poll numbers).

    If Richardson is on the ticket, New Mexico flips for sure. Colorado probably flips, given that it has been leaning more Democratic every year under the Bush administration, the Democratic convention is in Denver, and the Latino population will turn out to vote. Nevada and Arizona also have a good chance of flipping. It's also very possible that Hillary wins Arkansas. If all those things happen, and the blue states from 2004 stay blue, the Dems won't need Florida and Ohio, where the Republicans will certainly try to steal it again.
     
  3. Richardson as Veep is intriguing, as long as he wil please STFU about that godawful notion of a Balanced Budget Amendment.
     
  4. RedSmithClone

    RedSmithClone Active Member

    Richardson will bring the hispanic vote? As if the Dems don't already have that locked up with their open-border promises?
     
  5. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Richardson looked better before he started campaigning.


    That's just dumb. When an immigration bill passes, it will look an awful lot like the last one. You know it. I know it.
     
  6. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Oh come on, you're just not trying hard enough. I'm sure there's a right to a straight popular vote in there somewhere. Isn't "unconstitutional" a shorthand for "things I don't like", or do I have to refresh my memory on Breyer?
     
  7. Actually, I re-read the relevant portion of the Constitution and what California's doing may not be kosher. The Constitution gives the state legislatures the right to determine how electors are elected -- which is why the NC plan is legitimate. Doing it by public intiative would not seem to qualify.
     
  8. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    No....

    Men are simply, at their core, misogynistic assholes.

    No "seeing through" anyone in play here.

    She wins.

    In a walk.

    Only one who could shake it up is Gore, and I believe that that time may have come and gone.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    One has to wonder if liberal institutions like the New Yorker and Fenian Bastard would be concerned about this if it was not potentially detrimental the the 2008 Democrat party Presidential candidate.
     

  10. Yeah, Boom, in fact I would be.
    Right back atcha -- why are conservative sugar daddies backing this initiative in California, but not the one in NC, which is demonstrably more constitutional.
     
  11. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Constitution=GOP toilet paper
     
  12. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Californians now hate all initiatives, for good reason, too. Unlikely this passes. Does allow good interboard sniping though.
     
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