Dangerous Religious Nutballs

Yawn · Jul 10, 2007

Bill Horton said:

Zeke12 said:

But Christians don't blow things up.

I know I read that somewhere...
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Zeke is absolutely right. Christians don't blow things up. There's no room for that in the gospel Jesus brought.
Just because someone calls themselves a "christian" doesn't make them a follower of Jesus.
The same is true for all sorts of people. You can call yourself any label you want, but it doesn't mean you truly are what you say you are. You can apply any label at all, but it doesn't mean you're not a sick, twisted, mean, evil person.
You can call yourself a tolerant, open-minded liberal, but that doesn't mean you really are a tolerant, open-minded liberal. Some of the so-called liberals people on this board are the least tolerant, least open-minded people I've ever experienced. They do more to hurt their causes than promote them.
In meantime, can we all stop generalizing and stereoyping when it comes to any group or individual, whether that's a certain race, gender, ethnicity or political group? I'm a Christian and I have absolutely nothing in common with those sad, sick people trying to burn down a church.
I pity those so-called "Christians" and everyone filled with hate and rage - including some of the close-minded, intolerant and self-righteous so-called "liberals" this board. That goes for you, too, Yawn. You're probably the only person on this board more mean-spirited, arrogant and intolerant as Fenian and Ace.
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Then you must be a liberal. WOOPS! There I go again, right?

I simply respond to the crap that Mr. Bastard and Zeke the 12th spew. And it's worth repudiation. When you speak of hatred for groups, note always their feelings for the right-wing evangelical Christian groups and anything connected to the Republican Party. Otherwise, I haven't got a hate bone in my body and take the rest of this not too seriously.

Pastor · Jul 10, 2007

Ace said:

These guys don't represent a church. They seem to be typical nutballs painted in religion.
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Does Lowe's carry that? I'm looking to paint my rec room at home and this seems to be a good option.

On the more serious note, what this event shows is that there are many dangerous people in America, not all of the are Muslims.

zagoshe · Jul 10, 2007

Pastor said:

On the more serious note, what this event shows is that there are many dangerous people in America, not all of the are Muslims.
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Nor are all the dangerous people in this country, conservative, religious or people who claim to be religious and in fact almost all of them are nut jobs who are seeking some sort of legitimacy and act as if their version of random violence is somehow for a worthy cause.

Fenian_Bastard · Jul 10, 2007

Junkie said:

Zeke12 said:

But Christians don't blow things up.

I know I read that somewhere...
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Yes, three guys trying (and failing) to blow up an unbuilt chuch with nobody it is the same and rolling a truck bomb into a full mosque during services. Exactly the same. Wow, you guys are good. I didn't see it at all. Thanks for the he'p.
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No, but it's more serious than homeless people in Miami who tell the FBI undercover that they need jihad boots being pitched as a serious terror cell, or other idiots who plan to infiltrate a heavily armed military installation disguised as pizza delivery men.

Flying Headbutt · Jul 10, 2007

Fenian_Bastard said:

Flying Headbutt said:

Let's be intellectually honest here, Fenian. A couple of looney tunes with some firecrackers in a bottle aren't quite the same as a few carbombers or anything else that Islamic terrorists have been doing lately. Sure they're a threat, but they were going for a church under construction that was empty, not throngs of people going about their business. That's probably why no one cares too much. Church arsons happen more than terror attacks, and that's what this appears to be, their religious wackiness not withstanding.
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Yes, and they came closer to damaging something than did either the idiots in NJ or the folks in Florida, and we got existential-threat-to-civilization coverage for days out of those two.
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In those two specific instances, yes. But in the grand scheme of things, what they were hoping to accomplish is nothing compared to what the intents of others are. I mean heck, I could get drunk and piss on the doormat of a church down the street and damage more than any of the groups you just mentioned. But that isn't worth much of a mention in comparison.

Fenian_Bastard · Jul 10, 2007

Flying Headbutt said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

Flying Headbutt said:

Let's be intellectually honest here, Fenian. A couple of looney tunes with some firecrackers in a bottle aren't quite the same as a few carbombers or anything else that Islamic terrorists have been doing lately. Sure they're a threat, but they were going for a church under construction that was empty, not throngs of people going about their business. That's probably why no one cares too much. Church arsons happen more than terror attacks, and that's what this appears to be, their religious wackiness not withstanding.
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Yes, and they came closer to damaging something than did either the idiots in NJ or the folks in Florida, and we got existential-threat-to-civilization coverage for days out of those two.
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In those two specific instances, yes. But in the grand scheme of things, what they were hoping to accomplish is nothing compared to what the intents of others are. I mean heck, I could get drunk and piss on the doormat of a church down the street and damage more than any of the groups you just mentioned. But that isn't worth much of a mention in comparison.
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This sounds an awful lot like an argument that the other two fgroups I mentioned -- who had no more chance of doing what the Feds say they planned to do than they had to firing a dog to the moon -- should be taken more seriously because they gussied up their lunacy in the scary fashion of the age.
Unless you're willing to argue that those "eco-terrorists" who burn down unfinished ski lodges aren't a threat, and the DOJ would disagree with you there, too.

Yawn · Jul 10, 2007

zagoshe said:

Pastor said:

On the more serious note, what this event shows is that there are many dangerous people in America, not all of the are Muslims.
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Nor are all the dangerous people in this country, conservative, religious or people who claim to be religious and in fact almost all of them are nut jobs who are seeking some sort of legitimacy and act as if their version of random violence is somehow for a worthy cause.
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Almost all of conservative, religious people are nut jobs? I'm counting the hundreds of thousands of Southern Baptists, Penetecostals, Bapti-costals and Assemblies of God as line-item refutes to your mythological mantras.

Flying Headbutt · Jul 10, 2007

I was responding to the argument you seemed to be putting forward, which suggested that the ones in Texas aren't getting hype because they're Christians instead of Muslims. I offered that this wasn't much of a story because their plan sucked, they sucked, and that religion had nothing to do with them not getting attention.

Do we live in a society that hypes the extremist Muslim threat now? Yes. Has past history shown that we should be a tad bit more leery of them? Yes. Has the Bush Administration played fear tactics and overhyped every little glorified game of paintball someone might play? Of course they have and it's one more way they've erased just about all of their credibility.

zeke12 · Jul 10, 2007

Yawn said:

zagoshe said:

Nor are all the dangerous people in this country, conservative, religious or people who claim to be religious and in fact almost all of them are nut jobs who are seeking some sort of legitimacy and act as if their version of random violence is somehow for a worthy cause.
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Almost all of conservative, religious people are nut jobs? I'm counting the hundreds of thousands of Southern Baptists, Penetecostals, Bapti-costals and Assemblies of God as line-item refutes to your mythological mantras.
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Classic stuff. These two yahoos can't find a coherent sentence between them.

Yawn · Jul 10, 2007

The word should be "couldn't" Mr. English Professor.

How can you type at the keyboard while holding hands with FenPhen?

Fenian_Bastard · Jul 10, 2007

Flying Headbutt said:

I was responding to the argument you seemed to be putting forward, which suggested that the ones in Texas aren't getting hype because they're Christians instead of Muslims. I offered that this wasn't much of a story because their plan sucked, they sucked, and that religion had nothing to do with them not getting attention.

Do we live in a society that hypes the extremist Muslim threat now? Yes. Has past history shown that we should be a tad bit more leery of them? Yes. Has the Bush Administration played fear tactics and overhyped every little glorified game of paintball someone might play? Of course they have and it's one more way they've erased just about all of their credibility.
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Ok, then, google "William Krar" and answer to me why, in the light of OKC, you had to google him when you'd never have had to google, say, Jose Padilla.

Yawn · Jul 10, 2007

We focus on Muslim extremists because they deserve it.

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