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Dear dimwit on the phone

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Starman, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. Gator

    Gator Well-Known Member

    We have a forms page on our site that explicitly says, "Team photos of state champions or runners-up will run in the sports section." All others, and I'm quite happy there aren't too many, go in our weekly "Community" section. People hate this rule.
     
  2. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    USSSA has been doing this for years. They award points based on how many tournaments you play, and what type of competition you play. There's two or three tiers, I believe (A, AA and AAA), and you get more points if you play up a level. So a Class AA 11-year-olds' team that plays in a 12-year-olds' AAA tournament and wins a few games would get more points toward its national ranking than one that beats up on 11-year-olds' teams that are weaker.
    Of course, a team's strength and classification is based on how many times you pay the USSSA sanctioning fee to play in a tournament.
    I think at the end there's an actual USSSA World Series (a real one, not one that calls itself that) with a couple hundred teams. All of it's based off how many points teams have earned over the course of the year.
     
  3. KYSportsWriter

    KYSportsWriter Well-Known Member

    I wish we could ... I really do.

    But there's no way my boss' boss will approve it. He's pushed local, local, local since he took over, and that includes anything and everything youth sports-related.
     
  4. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Good idea spike, but one question ... most of the photos I get are travel teams or wrestling teams that don't have a dual season. When exactly is their postseason? I'm just thankful the wrestling coaches understand that if i don't get it in the paper right then, it'll appear evntually.
     
  5. BillyT

    BillyT Active Member

    "You only call us when we get broken into. When I call to ask you to come down and do a story on our new coffee section, you never come."

    That was part of my afternoon.
     
  6. JBHawkEye

    JBHawkEye Well-Known Member

    Had a youth baseball tournament in town this weekend. Two local teams finished 1-2 in the 12U division, so they were both mentioned in the same brief.

    Today's e-mail: Coach of the second-place team wants to know if we could publish their information again as a separate story. "We deserve our own story." Um, no.
     
  7. TheHacker

    TheHacker Member

    As it does so often and so well, this thread has again touched a nerve. Gator, I agree wholeheartedly.

    One of our youth soccer organizations is located such that it's part of the coverage area of three different community papers (mine, plus two others). And these people religiously send in their results to all three papers every week. Now, I'm not a parent, so I freely accept the criticism from all of you who are that I "just don't get it." You're right. I don't. I mean I understand it's your child and it's a thrill for you and all, but really? Really? You really get off seeing your kid's name in three different papers every week? The same exact copy in all three? That gets you going?

    I'm with you, Gator. I got my name in the prep roundup of my local paper maybe five or six times when I was in high school. Never for a kiddie game. It wasn't done.

    As far as how to handle this stuff, I agree, set policies. No photos unless you win a league or tournament championship. And nothing on leagues where they don't keep score. This crazy soccer organization I mentioned has a league for ages 3-6 and they are so steadfast in their desire to have their results published that they started sending that stuff in and telling us "all games in this league end in a tie." I might as well also include the standard line "fun was had by all," which also tends to be included when they send stuff.

    Parents ... I may yet become one, but I'll never be one.
     
  8. Flip Wilson

    Flip Wilson Well-Known Member

    Parents really expect the scores of always-tied fun league games in the paper? That's ridiculous. I coach my kids in t-ball. All the games end in a tie (or would if we actually kept score), everyone bats each inning and we all have a good time. Until I read that last post, the thought had never, ever crossed my mind to try and get our games in the paper. Nobody cares but the parents, and some of them barely care. Some are on their phones the entire game, and pause their conversation/texting/Angry Birds long enough to yell "Go, Susie" when their little sunshine is up to bat.
     
  9. SportsGuyBCK

    SportsGuyBCK Active Member

    All this makes me think back to one of the best pieces of advice I ever got, from an old-school editor (RIP) back in my early days ...

    "A person only DESERVES to have their name in the paper twice in their lifetime -- when they're born, and when they die ... in between, they've got to EARN it."
     
  10. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Like a few posters here, I can't speak from personal experience when it comes to being a parent, but I'm getting the impression that parenting has changed a lot since some of us were kids. Sometimes I think they're raising pets, not children, or see them as little trophies to be shown off, not nutured or encouraged to think for themselves.

    Ya gots the one that spend all night in line to make sure their kidlet gets into the proper preschool, lest being in the "wrong" school prevents them from getting into an Ivy League college ... and it gets worse from there. I did a preseason interview with a high school football coach in a sandwich shop he opened and was interrupted by a lady whose son had just gone out for football and she wanted to make sure he got to play some ... this was a team that was among the top teams in its region!

    And scholarships? It's like some of them are chasing the effing Golden Ticket from Willie Wonka (the Gene Wilder version, please). A word of warning to the noobs (after you bring me a Corona): Don't laugh at the stories from the more grizzled posters, since it'll happen to you, if not a worse one!

    OK, a couple of extreme examples, and a path I'm sure no one here is following with their spawn. But ya still wonder ...
     
  11. spikechiquet

    spikechiquet Well-Known Member

    Dear backshop people that must not understand sports (although you have been the last line of defense for as long as newspapers them self, so you should know what a no-hitter is or what triple overtime means.),

    Yeah...it's going to take a few minutes to get BOTH pages chased!!!

    Spike.
     
  12. JBHawkEye

    JBHawkEye Well-Known Member

    Today's e-mail: Guy wondering why we have so many "goof's" in the paper, especially on the "photo's." Who "editt's" these?
     
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