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In other words, fringe. Not the ascendant wing in one of the two major parties.

Which is the point Bubbler has been making.

 

Yeah, I think Bubbler & others are arguing past each other.

I don't agree that the Tea Party & the Weather Underground are analogous.

But, Bubbler seems to mainly believe this because the Weather Underground was small & never achieved a large influence over the Democratic Party, not because the Tea Party is a peaceful group that has nothing in common with the violent rhetoric (and actions) of the Weatherman.

He seems to believe that the Tea Party should be marginalized instead of incorporated into the larger conservative movement and the Republican Party.

But, so long as the Tea Party calls for revolution at the ballot box, I'm not sure why they need to be marginalized. They're not the Weather Underground.

They're people who felt they never had a voice before, who by joining together, feel that they now do. And it's a "voice" in the argument that they want. They're not advocating, planning, or executing violence.

 

This "felt they never had a voice before" line is pretty laughable, considering that the Tea Party is overwhelmingly white and male - the class that's pretty much run the country since its inception.

Every gripe the Tea Party has was around during the previous administration. And yet, this phony "movement" didn't really get going until a black guy was elected President.

Which group is it, YF, that has leaders like Sharron Angle warning of "Second Amendment remedies" and members showing up to rallies with shirts saying "We came unarmed - this time?"

The fact that you righties are still whining about Bill Ayers two years later- and having to reach back 40 years to find an example of violence from the left - is pretty sad, in my book.

 

The Sovereign Citizen movement is a right-wing thing. Extreme right-wing, but right-wing nonetheless.

 

A fact the Kumbayah-singing MSM is tip-tip-tiptoeing around very very carefully.

 

The Tea Party's purity of purpose - a return to the constitutional values espoused by the founders and a call to all Americans to familiarize themselves with the original text of the United States Constitution - is absolutely remarkable. I, for one, will not question it.

For example, speaking at a Tea Party rally recently, Speaker of the House John Boehner had this to say:

"This is my copy of the Constitution," John Boehner, the Speaker of the House, said at a Tea Party rally in Ohio last year, holding up a pocket-size pamphlet. "And I'm going to stand here with the Founding Fathers, who wrote in the preamble, 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

If you don't find that stirring, if you are such a cynic that you still question the Tea Party's motivations, then I don't know what to tell you. Love it or leave it, I guess.

 

I've always preferred the opening of the Declaration of Independence:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, esablish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, ...

 

You're joking, right?

 

All men except Indians and blacks. I understand what the Founding Fathers were trying to do, but independence was an economic decision as much as it was a political one.

 

L O L

 

The ratio of people who refer to the Constitution to people who actually know what it says is depressingly small.

 

Well, thank God the Speaker of the House, who put his money where his mouth is by having the document read on the House floor, knows what it says.