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Democratic Congresswoman Among 12 Shot in Arizona

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, Jan 8, 2011.

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  1. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    If Agent Orange says he's read the Constitution, then I would say he doesn't understand what he has read.
     
  2. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    He didn't have the document read. He skipped over some of the "outdated" parts, but is still technically a part of the Constitution.
     
  3. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    Seriously. There's some blue font missing, I'm assuming?
     
  4. terrier

    terrier Well-Known Member

    Did anybody catch Matt Taibbi's recently Boehner takeout in RS? Boehner was reading what he thought was the Constitution to a Tea Party gathering, but it was actually the Declaration of Independence.
    The Tea Party was originally created with the goal of cutting government spending. Reasonable enough. Problem is, every whacko and thug with an ax to grind against Obama adopted the Tea Party as their vehicle. The Tea Party was the proverbial girl who couldn't say no.
     
  5. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    No kidding about the "all men are created equal" bullshit.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I would agree that it's mostly white, but I'm not sure it's overwhelmingly male. Lot's of women, especially married women with children, support the Tea Party movement.

    I also don't think that you can extrapolate the demographics by just looking at who shows up at rallies. A pretty large number of people support the ideals of the Tea Party. A very small number of those will ever attend a rally.

    As to having a "voice," I'm not sure what being white or male has to do with it. The ruling class may be made up largely of white males, but that doesn't mean all white males are a part of it.

    The Tea Party isn't made up of bankers who were bailed out or other whites who benefited from the way our government has been run in recent years.



    This is insulting. I know you want to boil everything down to racism, but it's not the case.

    The federal spending & the associated debt is much higher now than it's ever been. Nothing like the Health Care "Reform" that was passed was "around during the previous administration."



    Sharon Angle was first elected to the Nevada Assembly in 1998. She's a politician. She may have tried to ride the Tea Party momentum all the way to the Senate, but the voters rejected her.

    That the voters in a state like Nevada rejected her, should tell you that the Tea Party and the rest of the electorate has its limits as to who can win state wide elections.

    Now that she's not the State's nominee for Senate, I doubt that Sharon Angle will have an ounce of relevance among Tea Party activists.



    Dave, we don't need to go back 40 years to find examples of violence from the left. We need only to look to Al Gore's kindred spirit, the Unabomber or to Gore's disciple, James Lee, who stormed the Discovery Networks building.

    But I don't think it's sad that there hasn't been an activist group on the left advocating, planning, and carrying out violence. That's a good thing.

    What's sad is that folks like Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, and Mark Rudd have been accepted into polite society and have been embraced by the political left all the way up to and including the President of the United States.

    If Scott Roeder were to ever get out of jail, I do not believe he would be welcomed back into society with open arms -- even after 40 years.

    I certainly don't believe he's get a job teaching at a major university, or at a top law firm or law school, or being writing pieces for the Washington Post.

    So, it is sad to me that Bill Ayers was considered to be a respected professor at UIC for years, or that Dohrn was able to find employment first at Sidley Austin (the firm where Barack and Michelle Obama met) and then at Northwestern University's Law School (all without being able to even hold a law license), or that Rudd is writing articles for the Washington Post.

    These people tried to violently overthrow our government and all is forgotten with them. That's despicable.

    They should have been forever shunned, and instead their members of the mainstream left. And, in the cases of Ayers and Dohrn, I'm not even sure that they've renounced and/or denounced their own previous actions.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Even if this were true, it's not like the Tea Party is some kind of country club or a Manhattan Co-op board.

    There's no application process to go through in order to join. It's a grass roots movement without national leadership.


    It's a shame -- a true shame -- that our nation could not be founded without compromising on the issue of slavery.

    A number of our founding fathers wanted to abolish slavery. in fact, the 3/5 provision in the constitution, that is now so controversial, is do to the hard work of those on the side of ending slavery. Had slaves been counted as citizens, and thus included when determining how many representatives each state had, the Constitution would have been much harder to amend. Future states that joined the Union would have also likely been admitted as slave states had that compromise not been reached as well. Instead, further compromises were made in which one slave state was admitted along with one free state.

    And despite his ownership of slaves, I believe that Jefferson -- the writer of the Declaration of Independence, and the forefather of today's Democratic Party -- did indeed believe that all men were created equal.
     
  8. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    First organized "Tea Party" event: Jan. 24, 2009.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

    Undoubtedly just an amazing coincidence.
     
  9. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    Still laughing at "purity of purpose." Dick Army feasts upon Dick Whitman's brain.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    You are a cynic.

    John Boehner emotionally read out of the preamble to the Constitution at a Tea Party rally. Then he put his money where his mouth is and arranged to have the Constitution read on the House floor.

    Boehner and the Tea Party are committed to restoring the original language of the Constitution.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Point of order is unable to see honorable intentions in anyone that believes differently.

    It's to your credit that you are able to.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    60 Minutes is beginning and they lead off with a tease of a story related to Tucson.

    That's pretty rare for them to turn around a story so quickly for broadcast, isn't it?
     
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