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Democratic Congresswoman Among 12 Shot in Arizona

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, Jan 8, 2011.

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  1. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    I can understand why you wouldn't want that taken into account. I'm betting it would ruin your theory.
     
  2. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

  3. JRoyal

    JRoyal Well-Known Member

    Except for the fact that the state with the highest rate by far is Louisiana, which has lax laws and no border with Mexico. Mississippi is third, and it has no Mexican border. South Carolina is sixth. Again, no border.

    Wow, didn't ruin my theory at all, did it?
     
  4. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Ted Nugent has been interestingly silent on this
     
  5. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Except for the fact that a great percentage of Arizona's crime is thanks to illegals and Mexican drug cartels, no, not at all. But that's a pretty big "except."
     
  6. JRoyal

    JRoyal Well-Known Member

    My point was never about the cause of gun crimes in Arizona. My point was that hondo claimed that in two specific states, one with lax laws and one without, the levels of violence were essentially the same. They aren't. My theory stands, my theory being that the rate of gun-related murders in Arizona is much higher than in New Jersey. I never professed any reasons for it because there are plenty of reasons they could be different, and I didn't want to threadjack this thread to argue why Arizona has a higher rate. But I'm sure the drug cartels are the ONLY reason for the difference.
     
  7. NoOneLikesUs

    NoOneLikesUs Active Member

    He sounded like a man who has reached the age where he's not running for election anymore.
     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

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  9. trifectarich

    trifectarich Well-Known Member

    I see that the Westboro Baptist Church is going to protest and picket at the funeral of the 9-year-old. (She was born on 9/11/01, which somehow made her evil.)

    Help us, Lord.
     
  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    http://articles.cnn.com/2010-04-29/justice/arizona.immigration.crime_1_sen-russell-pearce-illegal-immigration-immigration-law?_s=PM:CRIME

    Yet, a look at statistics from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency and the FBI indicate that both the number of illegal crossers and violent crime in general have actually decreased in the past several years.

    According to FBI statistics, violent crimes reported in Arizona dropped by nearly 1,500 reported incidents between 2005 and 2008. Reported property crimes also fell, from about 287,000 reported incidents to 279,000 in the same period. These decreases are accentuated by the fact that Arizona's population grew by 600,000 between 2005 and 2008.

    According to the nonpartisan Immigration Policy Institute, proponents of the bill "overlook two salient points: Crime rates have already been falling in Arizona for years despite the presence of unauthorized immigrants, and a century's worth of research has demonstrated that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes or be behind bars than the native-born."


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    Meanwhile, the cartel violence that has gripped Mexico for the most part has remained there, he said.

    Human and drug smugglers are being "more aggressive because we're being successful," Escalante said, "But we've been lucky not to see that type of [violence] spill over here."
     
  11. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    Stupid facts.
     
  12. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Like I said earlier, he wanted him to play fish in his outfield.

    {For those who don't get it, it references the feud between Ban Johnson and Charles Comiskey, which was mentioned in the book, "Eight Men Out"
     
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