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Denver Post to cut possibly two-thirds of copy editors

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by NatureBoy, Apr 26, 2012.

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  1. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I don't know if they've determined who is staying and who is going, but they know how many they're getting rid of. Apparently all of the jobs that are being cut are union jobs. No writers or managers are believed to be in jeopardy.
     
    Mizzougrad96, Apr 30, 2012
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  2. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    That would be the two-third Roberts' source predicted last week.

    Roberts wrote a couple of weeks back that Paige and editorial page columnist Vincent Carroll took big pay cuts.

    http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2012/04/woody_paige_vincent_carroll_pay_cuts_denver_post.php

    Not surprising if Kiszla had to take one. And certainly explains why they told Krieger to make the choice between a radio gig or being a columnist -- but not both -- all but walking him out the door in January. It appears he made the correct choice.

    Since the writers are going to be the copy editors and headline writers too, it wouldn't make any sense to get rid of any of them.
     
    MileHigh, Apr 30, 2012
    #98
  3. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    Could someone define copy editor? Reads? Layout? Edit and layout?

    Does that paper have a udesk?

    I could see a scenario, with a udesk, where they still get a paper out.

    Modules from Trib on big league sports. Udesk doing the bulk of inside pages. One guy in sports doing the cover and jumps.
     
    JayFarrar, Apr 30, 2012
    #99
  4. Roscablo

    Roscablo Well-Known Member

    The Guild speaks:

    http://denvernewspaperguild.wordpress.com/2012/04/30/guild-statement-on-newsroom-layoffs/

    I've also heard they might not know until the end of the week who goes.
     
    Roscablo, Apr 30, 2012
    #100
  5. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Hmmm, (fetal) position looks familiar, three years later.
     
    MileHigh, Apr 30, 2012
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  6. SalukiNC

    SalukiNC Member

    The guild should invest in a better wordpress theme.
     
    SalukiNC, May 1, 2012
    #102
  7. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    How can you cut resources and manage to pull off this daily magazine idea? Stories don't just generate themselves. You can't just have a bunch of feature writers sitting in a room coming up with ideas. The truly meaningful pieces of investigative journalism, the really good long-form features in newspapers, that stuff comes from covering a beat on a regular basis.

    You have to cover the city council meetings if you're to have any chance of uncovering the city council scandal. Even if the stuff doesn't come from the meeting itself, it will come from people who see you and know you. No one's going to call you up with a hot tip about the mayor just because you say you're an investigative journalist.
     
    deskslave, May 1, 2012
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  8. SportsDesigner

    SportsDesigner Member

    How can you even get a print product of that complexity out the door with 7 desk editors? Figure, with vacations and days off, you might have four each day - for the whole paper! You're going to depend on the beat writer to file to exact length and edit that running gamer with two minutes to spare? And if a similar layoff happened at my shop (figuring seniority rules), there would be ONE copy editor left from sports. Wow. I just don't get it. My thoughts go to everyone on the desk at the Post. So sorry.
     
    SportsDesigner, May 1, 2012
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  9. Roscablo

    Roscablo Well-Known Member

    And a day after, who cares about all that mess because look at how well we are doing!

    http://business-news.thestreet.com/denver-post/story/denver-post-circulation-increases-because-digital-access/1
     
    Roscablo, May 1, 2012
    #105
  10. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Interesting that just total numbers are used hyping of the digital numbers and the only mention of print -- where the majority of the ad revenue comes from -- has no specific numbers and is only couched with "traditional print-only subscriptions are down" two-thirds of the way down.
     
    MileHigh, May 1, 2012
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  11. Roscablo

    Roscablo Well-Known Member

    It is a joke. Especially since they are seemingly counting regualr old website visitors who don't pay for access. And even the ones who are paying, like I do for a Kindle edition, aren't paying much. It's like $5 or $6 a month so it's not padding the bottom line much.
     
    Roscablo, May 1, 2012
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  12. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    It's easy to see why there's been so many buyouts and layoffs: They're getting slammed with lack of print circulation, the No. 1 driver of advertising revenue.

    In short, since the Rocky closed -- and everyone who was taking just the Rocky at the time was converted to the Post -- print circulation in Denver is off 41 percent weekdays and on Sundays, it's off 23 percent.

    Finding the magic elixir of improving digital revenue has proved elusive -- and might never be found.
     
    MileHigh, May 1, 2012
    #108
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