Design thread

Re: Design thread *Updated 4/20*

You can see his face. Ogilvy was not exactly the story on Sunday, winner or no.

 

Re: Design thread *Updated 4/20*

I guess you can see his face in that 2-column pic.

To me it's celebrating the loser, not the winner.

 

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True, though to use an argument cited by my ME when wondering why we didn't go bigger with the Open, in 10, 20, 40 years, no one will remember that Ogilvy won, they'll remember that Mickelson lost it. The same way I can tell you that Greg Norman blew several majors, but I couldn't tell you who won them when he collapsed.

Sometimes, the loser IS the story, celebration or not.

 

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Agreed. And, to further that point, we shouldn't be in the business of "celebrating" anything. We should tell the best stories each day. On Sunday, the best story (in our eyes, at least) was Mickelson blowing it like the Lefty of yesteryear. It's what the wire story (LAT) we used led with and it's what our columnist (Purdy) wrote about. To use a big ol' picture of Ogilvy would have been a pretty awful way to illustrate those stories.

However, the argument that we should have used a big ol' picture of Phil is certainly valid. Just different visual storytelling (cue, DyePack) approaches and philosophies for different papers and situations.

 

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Y'all's points are valid, but Lefty choking is, well, cliché. He's done it before, he'll do it again.

His "I'm an idiot" comment was the perfect comedy formula for journos: Serve it up, knock it down.

It did sell more papers, though, and the bottom line in this business is to achieve that goal.

 

Re: Design thread *Updated 4/20*

OK, so I've continued working on that Redskins page that I pasted on here a loooong, long time ago.
Here's what I've got:

I really like everything about the page, except for one thing: The Hot and Cold in the lower right. Something about it just doesn't strike me as right...maybe it's the clip art, I don't know - though I like how the clip-art interplays with the stat. And I've got to find some way to break out a player or two...but I can't help thinking this might not be the right way.

Not necessarily something I don't like, but a concern: The special team part gives a chance for piece of art, but I don't know if I can rely on AP to produce art of Ks, Ps, KRs and PRs each week.

Thoughts? Further ideas?

 

Re: Design thread *Updated 4/20*

Any way to squeeze in some more air between your page topper and body copy?

 

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I don't know if there is something missing in the "Hot & Cold" but the page feels very top heavy.
Especially since there is so much white in the Virginia Connections graphic and the injury report.

Suggestion on Fourth & 10 ... make it intangibles. One week it might be special teams, another it might be coaching matchups - doesn't have to be head coaches, it could be student v. mentor, an old assistant coach coming back, etc.- or even weather, if that's expected to play a big factor in the upcoming game. Keeps things fresh and lessens the chance you'll get screwed by lack of art.

 

Re: Design thread *Updated 4/20*

Dixie: I will try and make the top a little smaller rather than dragging all the rest of it down. That should bring about some more white without drastically altering the top. (A flash of inspiration this morning, when I figured out if there's too much room on the injury report - which there probably is - then I can make a separate little box for recent transactions.)

Jay: Perhaps it would not feel as top-heavy if there was actual text in the Hot & Cold. But with just a blank space there, I do agree with you. And that's a superb suggestion on the Fourth & 10. Thanks.

 

Re: Design thread *Updated 4/20*

Wow...and that's coming from a PSU fan.

 

can anyone give me some thoughts on this page?

 

For starters, you have two hammer heds on the same page, and seemingly of the same size. Try to avoid that. And the bottom story jumps across the four-column photo with no connecting text. Try to avoid that as well.

But an improvement over the page you posted a few months ago. Keep it up.