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Detroit newspapers losing "daily" tag?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by mitch cumstein, Dec 11, 2008.

  1. pseudo

    pseudo Well-Known Member

    I don't subscribe to my OWN paper, a weekly, because we're mail-only delivery. Why would I do that with a daily?
     
  2. Jersey_Guy

    Jersey_Guy Active Member

    There are markets where home delivery isn't important.

    The NY tabs circulate almost entirely by newstand.

    I live in Southeast Michigan. When I walk my kids to the school bus, I pass about 40 houses in my tight little subdivision. I've noticed that one of them gets home delivery of a morning paper (plus my house).

    Maybe the numbers have dwindled to the point it just isn't worth it for the Freep/News.
     
  3. Frank_Ridgeway

    Frank_Ridgeway Well-Known Member

    Home delivery is important in NYC. This is why even in its heyday with more than 2 million daily circ and 3 million on Sundays -- the largest circ in American history -- the Daily News never had more than a fringe chunk of the advertising share. Advertisers want to know where their audience lives, not where their office is or where they walk through on their way to someplace else. Even the classifieds section was a mere shell of the much smaller-circ Times'.
     
  4. mustangj17

    mustangj17 Active Member

    At least they are giving a lot of options; coulda been worse.



    1. Home delivery of print edition Thursday, Friday and Sunday with access to Electronic Edition every day.
    2. Home delivery of print edition Sunday only with access to Electronic Edition everyday
    3. Home delivery of print edition Thursday, Friday & Sunday- No Electronic Edition (Available for current subscribers only)
    4. Home delivery of print edition on Thursday, Friday and Sunday. Postal mail delivery of print edition on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Saturday.

    and also at these retailers

    * 7-11
    * bp
    * caribou
    * citgo
    * cvs
    * dollar tree
    * dunkin donuts
    * kroger
    * marathon
    * meijer
    * mobil
    * panera
    * rite aid
    * shell
    * speed way
    * starbucks
    * sunoco
    * valero
    * walgreens
    * wal-mart
     
  5. Angola!

    Angola! Guest

    is the entire web site going to be pay only?
     
  6. steveu

    steveu Well-Known Member

    Another question...

    Freep has already said the print product on non-delivery days will be 32 pages. Chintzy, especially for a city the size of Detroit. Will the e-edition be an exact replica or will there be more content?

    I'm thinking along the lines of Sporting News Today here. How much would it cost to produce extra PDF pages for the e-edition with photos and such, to make those early-week editions thicker in content?

    Also on Mondays during NFL season (yes, it's the Lions, but bear with me)... people would like to see expanded sports sections with more content.

    I like the concept, but there's some things that could turn readers away.
     
  7. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    They've had a story up on their web site, specifically inviting comments, for about three hours now.

    No comments are visible.

    It's pretty safe to assume what the overwheming consensus of these comments are: "Go fuck yourselves. Cancel my subscription and ad buys, immediately."
     
  8. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    No, according to an editor's interjection on online comments to today's announcement story (Starman, some of the "go f*ck yourselves") quotes are there). So they're only dipping one foot into the water of massive change, IMO.

    I canceled my local paper once, telling the rep I didn't want to pay for a product that was free online, and she tried to sell me a digital subscription. Sorry, I'm not paying for PDF's just so I can see if the Big Game was the banner story in sports.
     
  9. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081216/FREEPRESS/81216032&s=d&page=51#pluckcomments

    there's 51 pages of comments....
     
  10. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Just showed up on my screen.

    I'm reasonably computer-competent, much much more so than the average Joe Schmoe. It ain't my job to figure out how to find them, it's the Freep's job to make them easily accessible to the readers.

    Undoubtedly somebody at the Freep offices finally said, "if we're going to invite comments, we have to display some of them, or else we look like complete knobs," and clicked the "enable" button.
     
  11. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I assume they're going to cut the subscription price right? And good luck finding carriers for three days a week. Will it really be worth their while?
    This reminds me of NBCs move with Leno. If I were Detroit I would have had each paper print on alternating days Monday, Wednesday, Friday; and Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and a joint edition on Sunday. But that's just me.
     
  12. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    Ummmm, no. I was reading them this morning while listening to the presser at the DAC...
     
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