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DMN's Evan Grant votes for Michael Young as AL MVP

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Versatile, Nov 22, 2011.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    So someone could vote for Freddy Garcia instead of Justin Verlander for the A.L. Cy Young Award and they wouldn't be "wrong" in your book?
     
  2. MrHavercamp

    MrHavercamp Member

    And it's perfectly fine for you to have the opinion. I wouldn't have put Young first either. But Evan did, and it's fine for him to make that choice as well. And he also made his case for a guy who was a credible candidate.
     
  3. MrHavercamp

    MrHavercamp Member

    That's a bad example and you know it. Young was named on 23 ballots. He was certainly viable option.
     
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    He was not a credible candidate.
     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    I'm saying the whole process is uselessly subjective. You apparently believe it's sufficiently empirical that an MVP vote for Michael Young is somehow demonstrably "wrong."
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    So are you saying that a vote for Garcia over Verlander is not demonstrably wrong?
     
  7. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

     
  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    In what way was a vote for Michael Young not "credible?"
     
  9. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Young led the league in late & close hitting with .406/.488/.580, and his OPS was .901 with the game within four runs and .642 with a margin of more than four runs.

    But now we're getting into parsing the individual statistics and making arguments. The point that is being discussed is whether Grant can justify his vote, which I believe he can (and has).
     
  10. MrHavercamp

    MrHavercamp Member

    Why do you keep using Garcia as a strawman? That's not the argument. It's Michael Young. You think the choice was wrong. Not everybody does. Twenty-three Top 10 votes show that.
     
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Miguel Cabrera RISP: .388/.518/.673
    Miguel Cabrera Late & Close: .341/.440/.576
    Miguel Cabrera, w/in four runs OPS: 1.008 (.107 higher than Young)

    I am under no circumstances going to count Young's poor performance in blowouts a positive for his candidacy. That's insane.
     
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    A Top 10 vote is fine. That's not a first-place vote.

    And I use Garcia as an example because Azrael says there are no "wrong" votes, by definition.
     
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