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Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Matt Stephens, Mar 24, 2011.

  1. Matt Stephens

    Matt Stephens Well-Known Member

    I think if you could find a way to hang the object or set it on an "invisible" tee, the shatter should go with the direction of the swing. If he/she were to toss it up, however, there runs a good risk of missing the location and having it come back at you.
     
  2. Beef03

    Beef03 Active Member

    Very cool
     
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  3. ADodgen

    ADodgen Member

    I think timing on the swing would be nearly impossible to catch. I'd love to be proven wrong, though. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

    I'm off to go shoot portraits of some guys who make horse trailers.
     
  4. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Unless you get them to sign a waiver, this is a very bad idea. The glass will explode in every direction, not just forward.

    Here's an image of someone hitting a water balloon. Look at the spray of the water. The glass will shatter in similar fashion, only much more dangerously.

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    Very cool idea, but it sounds dangerous (and potentially costly).
     
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  5. Matt Stephens

    Matt Stephens Well-Known Member

    Here's what the actual double exposure shots looked like:

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    They'll run all this week, but you can see some examples here http://www.nwaonline.com/sports/prep/

    For baseball and softball we ended up using flour instead of glass and it looked pretty cool. My favorite one was softball. Once that runs Thursday or Friday, I'll share.
     
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  6. ADodgen

    ADodgen Member

    Very nicely done.
     
  7. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Those came out great. Only thing I would have done differently in the shot above is layer the starting blocks behind the subject to give it a little depth, but it's still very cool. One of the better ideas I've seen for an all-area section.
     
  8. SharpTusk

    SharpTusk Member

    I think your photos are fine and look like the vast majority of photos out there. I agree with a couple of folks that most readers are not likely to be moved greatly one way or the other with most pics because we see so much really good sports photography that we're desensitized to it.

    I don't claim any great expertise in photography, but my father was in the business for a long time and always had a camera around even after he was out of the business. I think you're cognizant of one of the biggest things he taught me which was framing. Of course my father was worried about it because he'd waste time and money by not getting it right the first time. Digital images are cheap so take all your camera memory will hold.

    In your thread above with four pics, the framing has the players' feet cut off at the bottom. It's probably more acceptable on the No. 4 CSU player's photo because you lose some of the expression in his face if the frame is pulled back, but on the staged, out-of-the-tunnel shot, I thought the photo would have been better where the primary subject's whole body is in the frame. That contrasts with the acrobatic basketball shot where the players' who are not the subject of the photograph have their legs cut off in the photo. This leads into another aspect of framing which the acrobatic basketball photo does well and is a little easier to do in sports than elsewhere.

    It's helpful if the subjects around the periphery lead back to the primary subject of the photograph. Of course in sports, as you have in your shot, all three lesser characters in the photo are looking at the action which makes it easier to do. Here's a photo which had the full field to frame the moment which I'm sure you've seen before:

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    John Pelphrey is standing flat-footed watching the shot while Laettner...oh, forget it. It still makes me mad and is off point.

    I like ADodgen comments above.

    Anyway, nice work overall!
     
  9. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    We have two photographers on staff. One who's halfway decent. The other, who's the publisher's brother-in-law, is just a dude with a camera.

    For feature shots, I bring a digital camera and take them my damn self because I know what I want. Sometimes I think Random Mom could give us better art.
     
  10. Matt Stephens

    Matt Stephens Well-Known Member

    Pern-
    No argument from me on your depth assessment. Sometimes I love the blend, but on others I kind of really dislike it.

    Tusk-

    I agree about framing and feet, but like you said, I was trying more to capture the emotion. I wish I could have gotten the feet in that first pregame shot. Here is another tunnel shot before a game (though confused what you mean by "staged?"). All feet are in, but shot is so wide, there never seemed to be an accurate cut on the sides without some kind of distraction. Also, sun flare in the lens I tried to tone down.

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    Here are a couple more old football shots I don't think I've shared (sorry, got bored and started rolling through Flickr):

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  11. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    I love a well framed photo, and having the scoreboard in that shot is perfect.

    And that was taken with film.
     
  12. SharpTusk

    SharpTusk Member

    I wasn't meaning to imply that you were staging the photo as supposedly the flag raising on Iwo Jima was done. Almost all athletic events have some theater to them which is what the running out of the tunnel or through the "A" is. It's staged. That's all I meant. Your photos are better than many out there.
     
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