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Donald Trump: Come Kiss the Ring

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Dec 5, 2011.

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  1. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    I don't think you really understand critical or secular realignments.
     
  2. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

  3. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Makes you wonder why they didn't stick with what had been successful.
     
  4. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    In the past 35 years, Democrats have won with two personalities who fooled the easily fooled. That is all. They couldn't even win in 2000 with the vice president of a very popular (though scandal-ridden) president. Meanwhile, the GOP now owns state governments with an incredibly deep roster of players that are going to be the up-and-comers for the next two decades. The Democrats have no bench at all, which is why they're running Hillary against Bernie right now.

    Governorships: GOP 31, Dems 18, Independent 1
    State Legislatures (both houses): GOP 30, Dems 11, split 8 (Nebraska has only one house and it is supposedly non-partisan, though we know the state has gone Republican in presidential elections every time since 1968)
     
  5. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    It's worth noting those two personalities each fooled the easily fooled twice. Agree about the weak bench though. Say what you want about the tea party movement, but it cleared out a lot of dead wood in the GOP. I don't know where the next generation of Dem leadership in the House is going to come from. The Dems got smoked in 2010 and re-elected Pelosi (75) and Hoyer (76). There aren't a lot of well-funded independent PACs willing to buck the Dem party leadership and fund party challengers.
     
  6. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    For this presidential election, of the top 22 Super PACS in terms of raising money, guess how many are conservative-leaning? Try 18 of them.

    Super PACs | OpenSecrets

    When you can buy your way to influence, that can keep your candidate in a lot of races.
     
  7. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    It also helps to be in power when the census resets the Congressional districts, so you can gerrymander the hell out of them.
     
  8. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

  9. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    At this point he's taking bets with his buddies on whether or not he actually has to utter the words "concentration camps" to get himself out of this race.
     
  10. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    All of which are cancelled out and then some by union money.

    Top Organization Contributors | OpenSecrets
     
  11. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

  12. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    I think you're on to something here. It would not surprise me if Trump got into the race as a vanity project, never thinking he'd actually be a front-runner. Now he's got to find a way to get out with the least amount of embarrassment. I don't see Trump as such a community- and country-first kind of person that he'd devote four or eight years of his life to public service -- especially at his age -- when he could instead be jetting around the world for vacation-type activities.
     
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