Donald Trump: Should We Take Him Seriously? (Now leads 2012 GOP Field by 9%)

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You don't think there's a difference?

You don't think it's worth being clear?

 

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How about we just throw out entirely the idea that running a business and making economic decisions as a President are remotely comparable? Then we don't have to worry about what his bankruptcies are for.

 

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There's no way it will be Bachmann. I don't think we've heard too much from her since the State of the Union.

I don't think Palin is going to run. She can make too much money doing other things.

If Barbour was planning on running, he let one of the top guys, Nick Ayers, go to Pawlenty's campaign. Apparently Ayers and Barbour are very close and also his wife reportedly doesn't want him to run.

At this point, I don't think any of the republicans can beat Obama, but I think Barbour would have the best chance.

 

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OK. Sure.

But that's not what Starman said. He compared Trump's businesses that restructured under the federal bankruptcy code with Obama's lack of personal bankruptcy filings.

And, he wasn't clear that he was referring to Trump's businesses. He left the impression that Trump had filed for personal bankruptcy, which he never has.

 

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While I'm sure these numbers are inflated as well, Trump has made a lot of money over the years at these kind of things:

 

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Trump never had the option of begging for his "debt limit" to be increased. Or voting against it (with a strongly-worded message about failures in leadership) before begging for it.

 

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If nothing else, this thread proves Barnum and Mencken both correct, 100%.

 

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Trump has always been a high wire act, and he's been able to rely on his family when he got into real trouble.

But, he's also been pretty diligent about repaying his loans. He personally guaranteed hundreds of millions of dollars of business loans. And, at times, he's been able to use that fact as leverage to extend or renegotiate the loans.

Check out this New York Magazine article from 1994:

http://books.google.com/books?id=VeMCAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA23&ots=ZlqVkiey2l&dq=trumps%20near20death%20experience&pg=PA20#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

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It is my belief that when voters aren't happy with their conventional choices, they LOOVE to say they'll vote for unconventional ones -- then they renege when it's time to close that deal.
Really, if Jon Stewart said he was thinking about running for the Democratic nomination, he'd get plenty of support tomorrow in the polls.
Anyone citing Trump's business acumen as grounds for voting for him must deal with the acronym USFL.

 

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Exactly. I was trying to think of someone comparable on the other side of the aisle, and Stewart's as good an example as anyone.

Trump has huge name recognition and people love to say they'll vote for the person who's "not a professional politician". By saying they'd vote for Trump to pollsters, they're able to send a message. But, when push comes to shove, I don't think a lot of people would really pull the lever for Trump -- or someone like him.

Someone else mentioned the USFL. Why is Trump getting the blame here? For altering the salary structure?

I know he wasn't the only guy to sign players to outrageous contracts -- Steve Young -- was he the first?

 

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Running a business != Running a government