Donald Trump: Should We Take Him Seriously? (Now leads 2012 GOP Field by 9%)

dooley_womack1 · Apr 8, 2011

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And thank you for the avatar change. As for Trump, Pat Paulsen had more of a chance

Deeper_Background · Apr 8, 2011

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Trump stole his gimmick from Vince McMahon

DanOregon · Apr 8, 2011

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The difference between Paulsen and Trump is that some voters don't realize it is a joke.

TheSportsPredictor · Apr 8, 2011

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No.

Smallpotatoes · Apr 8, 2011

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I haven't been able to take him seriously since the Rosie O'Donnell dispute.

dooley_womack1 · Apr 8, 2011

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(Biting a hole through my lip to not crossthread)

suburbia · Apr 8, 2011

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YankeeFan said:

No one's going to donate to a Donald Trump campaign and he's not going to spend $100M+ to run for president.

Donald's money is tied up in real estate and the various partnerships and companies that own individual properties.

He's not liquid and he's not going to liquidate holdings to run for President.

I'm shocked that he's gone all "birther" because I think it hurts his brand, but he's certainly loving the attention.
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That's what it is all about - getting himself attention and boosting his various business interests, whether its driving up ratings for The Apprentice, drawing more guests to his hotels, or whatever.

The media is more than happy to give him the air time because his craziness drives up ratings for the newscast. People tune in to hear what crazy shit he'll say next, and the networks hope they'll stay tuned in for whatever else they're showing afterwards. Ratings = higher prices you can charge for advertising = more profits = happier shareholders.

YankeeFan · Apr 8, 2011

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Trump writes a letter to the editor:

Even before Gail Collins was with the New York Times, she has written nasty and derogatory articles about me. Actually, I have great respect for Ms. Collins in that she has survived so long with so little talent. Her storytelling ability and word usage (coming from me, who has written many bestsellers), is not at a very high level. More importantly, her facts are wrong!

As far as her comments on the so-called “birther” issue, I don't need Ms. Collins's advice. There is a very large segment of our society who believe that Barack Obama, indeed, was not born in the United States. His grandmother from Kenya stated, on tape, that he was born in Kenya and she was there to watch the birth. His family in Honolulu is fighting over which hospital in Hawaii he was born in-they just don't know.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/opinion/lweb08trump.html?_r=3
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Brad Guire · Apr 8, 2011

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I think it's in our best interests that we take no politician seriously.

YankeeFan · Apr 8, 2011

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And Gail responds to the Donald:

Although Trump and I have had our differences in the past, I never felt it was personal. In fact, until now, I have refrained from noting that I once got an aggrieved message from him in which he misspelled the word “too.”

But about the letter. You can read it online at nytimes.com/opinion. Mainly, it’s a list of alleged evidence that Barack Obama was not born in the United States. Trump has made this the centerpiece of his faux presidential campaign, falling further and further into the land of the lunatic fringe. I find this a disturbing spectacle — a little like seeing a guy you know from the neighborhood suddenly turn up in the middle of Times Square with his face painted blue and yelling about space aliens.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/09/opinion/09collins.html
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I don't see the point in responding to everything Trump says. You're playing into his hand if you do. Trump will just hit back again, and once you've engaged him, you lose if you quit fighting.

There's no way to come out of it looking good once you've stooped to his level.

Inky_Wretch · Apr 8, 2011

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YankeeFan said:

Trump writes a letter to the editor:

Even before Gail Collins was with the New York Times, she has written nasty and derogatory articles about me. Actually, I have great respect for Ms. Collins in that she has survived so long with so little talent. Her storytelling ability and word usage (coming from me, who has written many bestsellers), is not at a very high level. More importantly, her facts are wrong!

As far as her comments on the so-called “birther” issue, I don't need Ms. Collins's advice. There is a very large segment of our society who believe that Barack Obama, indeed, was not born in the United States. His grandmother from Kenya stated, on tape, that he was born in Kenya and she was there to watch the birth. His family in Honolulu is fighting over which hospital in Hawaii he was born in-they just don't know.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/opinion/lweb08trump.html?_r=3
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Except, you know, those claims have been refuted to the point that the birther issue is inarguable among the sane.

terrier · Apr 8, 2011

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There was a time in Germany when nobody took the silly little guy with the odd mustache seriously, either.
Times like these are when an electorate is most vulnerable to this garbage, particularly Republican voters who aren't thrilled with their choices right now.
We really can't equate Trump to Perot. While that might have been a valid comparison in Trump's earlier flirations with politics, he's chasing the GOP nod this time. Also, he's going hard right in a way he never did before.
Past contributions to Dems? Big deal. Wasn't Reagan a Dem once, too?

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