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Dr. V's magical putter

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!, Jan 15, 2014.

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  1. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Tony...

    What I am bolding is what would bother me. A woman's DUI in 1999 has nothing to do with her house burning down in 2014. All are true and all can be found online, but the former would not be of legitimate concern to the public.

    http://www.floridabar.org/DIVCOM/PI/RHandbook01.nsf/1119bd38ae090a748525676f0053b606/dfc00ac22467b7f5852569cb004cbc2a

    C. Private Facts.
    1. Personal Matters -- Details about a private person's sexual relationships, the contents of personal letters, facts about an individual's hygiene, or other intensely personal matters are off limits to the news media unless events make those details "newsworthy."

    2. Newsworthiness -- Even truthful accounts are actionable if they contain highly offensive details not of legitimate concern to the public.

     
  2. pseudo

    pseudo Well-Known Member

    Well, of course it was. From 2010:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20100927072108/http://www.yargolf.com/index-1-About.html

    (Echo the "nice work" on the records search.)

    Add: In fact, the original (as opposed to the one with the "new" slug in the URL) still exists:
    http://yargolf.com/index-1-About.html
     
  3. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member

    Would I be safe in saying this is going to be one of the most discussed stories in journalism courses for years to come? Frankly, I've learned a lot of things I didn't over the past five days and the care that needs to be involved when writing about a trans person. I think IJAG's thoughts on this thread were the best put. I'll admit when I first read the story, I thought it was great. If anything good comes of this, it will be a teaching lesson and cautionary tale going forward. That's not to diminish the anguish and pain caused by the article.
     
  4. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Jesus, Walter.

    It took the world two days to figure out a transgendered person killing themselves was a big deal. Check your Twitter feed.
     
  5. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    For what seems like the 20th time I have said it... It was connected to her lie of lineage, of being a Vanderbilt. With that lineage, she gained credibility for herself and her product.

    Maybe this time you'll comprehend it.
     
  6. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Of course, since she had attempted suicide previously, saying that she committed suicide over being outed -- even though the article wasn't written until three months AFTER she committed suicide -- is not just conjecture but complete and utter bullshit.
     
  7. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    So you think that being transgender person is "highly offensive?" Wow.
     
  8. Central-KY-Kid

    Central-KY-Kid Well-Known Member

    Phil Kinney is a Yar investor Hannah said met Vanderbilt at a convention. Also at this convention, according to a post made more than 2 years ago by Kinney on the PuttZone forum, was Geoff Mangum. Mangum is a putting coach and "theorist" and owner of PuttZone.com and its forum.

    On the forum, Kinney himself calls himself Yar's director of marketing (http://www.network54.com/Forum/52812/post?messageid=1305570580). A fact Hannan, or his editors, left out.

    After speaking up for the Yar Putter since at least 2011 (http://www.network54.com/Forum/52812/post?messageid=1304658815), Mangum spoke up about Vanderbilt's death.

    After reading the Grantland piece, let's just say Mangum -- who has repeatedly said on his PuttZone forum he is a friend of Vanderbilt and Jordan -- has changed his tune toward her, but not the putter. Although the putting coach and self-proclaimed "theorist" now says the science is "a bit murky." (aside: Not exactly a glowing recommendation from a once huge supporter)

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/52812/post?messageid=1390022545

    "Original Message

    Death of Yar's Dr. V
    Geoff Mangum (Premier Login aceputt)
    Forum Owner
    Posted Jan 18, 2014 12:22 AM
    Dear Folks,
    I just learned the sad news that Dr. V has died. This news article below tells a long strange tale of Dr. V's life, and some apparent deception, but I still have to say the Yar putter works darn well, even if the science is a bit murky, and Dr. V was quite the interesting person. I never encountered anything untoward and am sad to hear of the death."
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Where is Caleb -- Day 5.

    It's five days since Caleb has tweeted. Has anyone seen or heard from him?

    Should we be worried? At what point to we get the authorities involved?
     
  10. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    No, but publishing personal details might be highly offensive to the source.

    How about this example...

    Your neighbor to the right, tomorrow your editor wants to run a page one feature on them and you need to dig up all medical, criminal, educational and financial information you can on them. It all must be true, and if they have ever filed for bankruptcy or divorce, it's going in the lede. Would your paper expect a lawyer calling from that person?

    Mind you, it's all true so it must be fair game, right?
     
  11. Central-KY-Kid

    Central-KY-Kid Well-Known Member

    93Devil,

    Except the outing of Vanderbilt was NOT in the lede. It was several thousand words in.

    Bankrupt? Harassment? Having been a twice-married man? None near the lede. Hundreds and maybe thousands of words into it. You had to scroll down and look for it. It wasn't smacking you in the face right out of the gate.
     
  12. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    But it does not matter where it goes. Burying something does not make it OK.
     
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