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Dr. V's magical putter

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!, Jan 15, 2014.

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  1. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Please comment more about how being transgendered is a con.
     
  2. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Might as well. They both happened before he wrote a word.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Exactly.

    The author doesn't seem to understand his own story:

    And, he seems to take glee in both discovering that she was born a man anatomically, and in relating this fact to the investor:

    A "chill" ran up your spine because you realized she was a transgendered? Really? Why?

    You can hear the author giggling to himself as he types this paragraph, remembering the original conversation:

    And, what was the point of disclosing this fact to the investor, other than to find out if he too would get a chill up his spine? "Surprisingly", he took the news calmly:

    Would the article have been any different if all it disclosed was that Dr. V had legally changed her name, and did not possess the credentials she claimed?
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Would anyone like to take a guess at what percentage of transgendered women attempt suicide?

    If a 16-year-old high school kid had outed a transgendered classmate, who then committed suicide, we would call it bullying, and demand prosecution.

    And, forgive me if I think the board would be more sympathetic under different circumstances. I remember a time when the suicide death of a person struggling with their gender identity elicited sympathy:

    http://www.sportsjournalists.com/forum/threads/74653/
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Gregg Doyel ‏@GreggDoyelCBS

    The guy's story led a person to commit suicide. I'm just. I can't.

    As a reporter, you find out you have hounded a subject into suicide. And so you write the story ANYWAY? OK, I'm done. Losing it here.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Caleb Hannan admits to outing Dr. V's transgendered status to at least one person in the article.

    I'm left wondering how many other people did he out her to? Will he tell us? Will anyone ask him?
     
  7. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    George O'Leary won football games and represented himself as a football coach. Oh, the horrors! Right?
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    ESPN really has its ducks in a row.

    KVV agrees that the article "might be the best I've read this month"

    Jones is defending, and lashing out at anyone who is criticizing it.

    And, the best MacGregor can muster is to see it as a "Good opportunity for a bunch of us to argue craft and best practices."
     
  9. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    This was a good read: http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2014/01/18/caleb-hannan-gender-identity-and-journalistic-ethics

    So I'll ask this: Where are the editors or ESPN legal in a story like this? Hannan did great reporting. Reporter's chops. But *someone* had to have edited it, right? Were there discussions by higher-up editors? Legal?
     
  10. Key

    Key Well-Known Member

    Are people suggesting this wasn't worthy of a story? Or that it should have been spiked?
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Is that the choice? This article, as reported, and written, or no article?

    Do you believe it's "the tale of a troubled man"?

    Do you believe it should have been framed where her gender is equated with the lies regarding her education and work credentials? Should the author have outed her to her investor?

    And, should the story have been written so that the big reveal is that, She's a man baby!
     
  12. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    I got it: Hannan was used as a pawn by the golf industry to out Dr. V into suicide so it could steal her recipe.
     
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