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Drug-Addled Gasbag Steps In It

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Fenian_Bastard, Sep 28, 2007.

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  1. Dangerous_K

    Dangerous_K Active Member

    Which, honestly, I'd totally feel for him...if he didn't spew venom about people using drugs illegally being a detriment to society and needing to be locked away forever.
     
  2. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

    That part I understand. I'm looking for some insight into hondo's moral relativism.
     
  3. jimmymcd

    jimmymcd Guest

    Haha! Now I know for sure you turds rely on your bullshit websites for all your info. You didn't hear the original conversation, and honestly don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Assholes.
     
  4. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Heckuva post, jimmy.
     
  5. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    Pain killers are legal, by doctor's prescription. No one's sending you to CVS for some crack.
     
  6. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    The kitten thing was a joke, albeit a bad one, at the time. But you seem to be typical of a lot of liberals: love animals, hate people.
     
  7. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    But an illegal scrip is the same as buying crack -- it is illegal.
     
  8. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    But there are still proven health benefits from any prescription drug. Obviously, if you abuse anything, from drugs to cheeseburgers, there will be a health cost to pay. But there are no health benefits from crack. There is a difference.
     
  9. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

    Not if you're buying them off the street without a 'scrip. Or filling multiple prescriptions from multiple doctors unknown to one another. Do you honestly believe there's some sort of moral or ethical difference to be drawn between a suburban housewife addicted to Vicodin she gets on the sly, and some kid in the East Village addicted to crank? Because I thought moral relativism like that was the philosophical specialty of the left.
     
  10. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    I don't think there is a moral relativism here. It's a recognition of the fact that one one level, prescription drugs are legal. There is no level on which crack and other drugs are legal. Sure, the abuse and illegal obtaining of prescription drugs is illegal, but the people doing so at least started their experience with those drugs through necessary and legal means. The crack, heroin, meth, etc. crowd started out as criminals and stayed that way.
     
  11. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

    They're both criminals, hondo. And a junkie's a junkie.
     
  12. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    For starters, this is a good debate and I can see merits on both sides. And at least you're refraining from the Fenian and JR "I'm right and you're a jerk," debate.

    I guess from a personal standpoint (and because I had a friend go through this), I'm going to cut more slack to the drug addict who at least started off from a legal and medically necessary standpoint. In other words, there is moral and ethical ground for someone with chronic back pain to be taking something prescribed by a doctor to alleviate that pain. Someone who made the decision to start shooting up heroin or smoking crack, never had a moral leg to stand on.

    And yes, I will agree ... anyone obtaining drugs by an illegal manner is a criminal. I just think you can balance the judgemental part of it for someone addicted to prescriptions drugs because part of their experience was legal.
     
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