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Elon Musk takes over Twitter

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Alma, Apr 25, 2022.

  1. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

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  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    When I saw this thread near the top, I thought it was going to be about his financing.

    There are reports that he's talking to big private equity firms and some large existing Twitter shareholders to see if they will take preferred stock with a fixed dividend to help him finance the purchase so he doesn't have to come up with so much money himself. Names I heard were Apollo and Ares, and he has supposedly hit up Jack Dorsey and Fidelity for what they own.

    I hope none of them bail him out of biting off more than he could chew, but I imagine it will depend on how big a dividend they can get.
     
  3. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    The finance end does not particularly concern me. He's going to come up with the money to do it or he's not. Shrug. If he does, the changes that he makes to the Twitter rules of engagement might possibly be an enormous expansion of lies and bullshit, or it might be little to no change once the realities of attempting to moderate the site and any potential liabilities involved in such a change are clear.

    I'm basically in interested but don't panic mode.
     
  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  5. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  6. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    This is a totally normal thread by Emptywheel, analysis of a trial, testimony, evidence, and the various implications for other 1/6 cases. Read the thread and look at how much of it Twitter has excised.

     
  7. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    If I tweeted - I'd drop one of those "You only get to keep one - Twitter or reproductive rights." And watch the world explode.
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/05/ora...illion-to-fund-musks-purchase-of-twitter.html

    The odds of him getting this done are rising. He is lining up financing, some of it by getting existing Twitter shareholders to roll their stakes over rather than cash out. The filing also shows that the size of the margin loan against his Tesla stock is going to be half of what he originally said, so he needs to come up with more financing. Supposedly he is still talking to other current shareholders and some PE firms.

    If the odds were say at 70 or 80 percent, it's probably up to 90 percent with the help he is finding. It also means that even though he is going to be the majority owner of Twitter, others including the Saudis (and I am wondering if this is going to get jumped on by people) will be part owners too.
     
  9. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    What's worse than Elon Musk owning Twitter? The murdering, bribing, amoral MBS with an ownership stake in it.

    What possible reason would people have to jump on this?
     
  10. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    Where have I heard this stuff before? Oh yeah...

     
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    They aren't giving him something because he asked, like he's the Lollipop King.

    He's offering people insanely good terms that put a lot of the risk on him and what will be his stake in the company, in order to get them to take preferred stock in a private Twitter rather than cashing out.

    Nobody said Elon Musk is going to run out of money except you, he's an insanely wealthy guy. But if (more like when) his net worth takes a massive hit, it's going to be because almost of all that wealth is on paper in a public company that is very, very overvalued. His personal stake in Twitter after this closes is just going to trade in some of that overvalued equity for overvalued equity in Twitter. So he's no worse for the wear YET. When he will be hurting is when the bubble that has Tesla trading at a crazy multiple pops -- and what we are already seeing is like 2nd inning of this. It will be that much worse for him personally than it was going to be because of the loan he is taking, which collateralizes some of that stock.
     
  12. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    And also

     
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