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Elon Musk takes over Twitter

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Alma, Apr 25, 2022.

  1. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member


     
  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    They're saying Booo-urns.

     
  3. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    When remora wishes really hard and becomes a real boy!
     
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  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

  5. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

  6. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Copped from a Reddit post re Musk:


    "He has demonstrated again and again that he just fundamentally doesn't understand what Twitter's product is, and who its customers are.

    Twitter's customers are advertisers, and its product is users. The more users it can produce, and the more information it can harvest on those users to better ensure targeted advertising can reaches its mark (and the more effective the algorithms driving that process are); the more customers (i.e. advertisers) it will attract and the more they will be willing to pay.

    The key aspect that causes confusion, I think, is that Twitter manufactures this product (content-consumers primed for targeted advertising) using machinery fueled by a certain subset of users (content-creators and the mouthpiece accounts of notable people). The "blue tick" is basically just a way of demarcating the former type of user from the latter.

    Musk seems totally oblivious to this, though. He seems to genuinely think that Twitter's customers are its users, and the product that Twitter is selling to them is the ability to broadcast your unfiltered id into the void and receive ego validation in return. That's why he doesn't give a shit about actively alienating advertisers. Why he thought it was a good idea to monetize the blue tick (which is the equivalent of charging your suppliers to provide the critical machinery your factory needs to run instead of, you know, paying them). And why he certainly has plans to further charge users to engage with the platform moving forward.

    No doubt many, many people within Twitter have been trying to explain the business model to him this whole time, so the fact that he still clearly doesn't get it is kind of mind-blowing, to be honest."
     
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  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I don't know if he is oblivious. But with the amount of debt he had to take on to buy the company at that ridiculous valuation, the old model is not going to work. The company is going to drown in the debt that he saddled it with. The platform was static and not growing users for a long time. The business itself had little cash flow, and even though it is true that advertising accounted for the revenue that it actually had, it ran into a wall on trying to generate that ad revenue. ... in good part because there is 1) social media with better user engagement for those willing to pay higher ad rates, 2) the content on Twitter scares a lot of potential advertisers off.

    Whoever wrote that doesn't understand it from the chair Musk is sitting in. Musk has a billion dollars in an interest payment coming due very soon, and forget profits, the company has never even generated close to that amount of cash in a year. It's undoubtedly generating even less cash now with his daily shit show and with the advertisers who have likely fled because of that. ... but even without that, if he tries to do more of the same, he's screwed. He'll be reaching into his own pocket for eternity if he wants to keep the company afloat.

    The problem is that he's now flailing, because he has no clue how to magically transform the business into something completely different that generates the kind of cash he needs to satisfy the debt he had to take on. An ad-based content platform ain't the answer. Not with what he is into the company for.
     
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2023
  8. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    There is literally nothing Elon Musk can do to make Twitter profitable enough to pay down the astronomical debt he took on to purchase it.

    The rest of this is masturbation.
     
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  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That has been the fun of it all for me. He trapped himself. It's his money on the line and he can't bullshit and bubblegum his way out of it the way he has over and over again as a businessman. There are no government subsidies, the company isn't public anymore so he can't somehow use the loose financial conditions to create a frenzy that pawns off some of the valuation (and it's the valuation HE put on the company) on others, and because we are no longer at permanent zero interest rates and lending has tightened up just a little, he can't just roll over an escalating pile of debt endlessly the way people in over their heads like this have been for more than a decade.

    The environment is a little more hostile to the survival of the unfittest. He can bullshit all he wants about things he is going to do that are revolutionary. ... but he's just flailing. It's clear he has nothing.
     
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  10. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    Too late.

    Twitter had the infrastructure, models and users to start OnlyFans, too.
     
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  11. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Going great!

     
  12. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

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