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Elon Musk takes over Twitter

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Alma, Apr 25, 2022.

  1. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    If anyone can get one then it’s worthless. Is muskrat really not smart enough to get that or does he need desperately need $8.00?
     
  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The latter. Musk, who went long $44 billion to buy Twitter in a fit of grandiosity and pique, has discovered to his chagrin that there's no real way for the site to make money. His chagrin is nothing compared to that of the banks who lent him the dough and realize now they won't get much of it back.
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    On how to make money, it's still an advertising and /or subscription business, and the use of the platform was pretty static. He has talked about morphing the business into an "everything app" but until I see it, it's just the usual bullshit and bubblegum from him. That works when he is getting billions of dollars of subsidies for a business or when a zero interest rate environment enabled him to borrow endlessly and / or continually dilute the existing equity in the business to raise capital without being punished. But that world has been brought to a standstill by the Fed and honestly Ben Bernanke, Janet Yellen and Jay Powell were really what explained 95 percent of his genius.

    On the bank loans, they are almost definitely going to end up losing money, but that has less to do with Elon Musk or Twitter and everything to do with the landscape having changed. When the Fed had interest rates pinned at zero for a decade, there was so much appetite for any yield that the banks could package any kind of dog crap and there was a line of credit investors willing to buy it.

    Assuming the Fed hikes another 75 basis points at 2 pm today, the Fed Funds rate will now be up to 4 percent, and and even though rates are still negative in real terms, the risk appetite has fallen off a cliff and led to a sharp sell-off in credit markets that has left those same banks with somewhere between $30 billion and $100 billion of "hung" debt from takeovers and mergers and leveraged buyouts that they can't find buyers for.

    That market dried up almost overnight, and the banks had committed to so much financing that they are a bit stuck. It goes way beyond Musk and Twitter. Right now, they are stuck holding on to a lot of debt that they had intended to repackage and sell. In the case of Twitter, they now will wait into next year to see what he does with the company and based on that and how credit investors perceive it, the banks are going to have to figure out how much they are going to have to discount the debt in order to sell it. It could end up amounting to a significant loss for them.
     
  4. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    I can't wait for the next bank bailout under President DeSantis.
     
  5. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

  6. maumann

    maumann Well-Known Member

    Would she be considered a Twitter Kwitter?
     
  7. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    E-lon posted a twitter poll (Should advertisers support free speech or political correctness) than deleted it. Clown.
     
  8. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    He's so BAD at this.
     
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  9. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    Musk's ego got the best of him and he paid at least double for something he really doesn't want and has no idea what to do with. Insert Nelson's HA HA here.
     
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  10. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    He sounds like he's horrible at reading the room. How the hell did he become a billionaire? Besides cheap money.
     
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  11. matt_garth

    matt_garth Well-Known Member

  12. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

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