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Erin Andrews and the Cubs locker room: Discuss

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by hondo, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    Touching a player like what? 'At one point, she placed her hand suggestively on Soriano’s left biceps.' What the hell does that mean?
     
  2. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Define pornography.

    I can't, but I know it when I see it.

    So you aren't defending the behavior, just doubting that it happened?
     
  3. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member


    One more time: It's a <b>COLUMN.</b> By definition, you (figuratively) get up on a soapbox when you write a <b>COLUMN.</b>
     
  4. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    I wasn't there, I didn't see it, and I'm really not trusting this guy to decide for me; the entire tone of the story is condescending and judgmental.

    She touched his arm? So what? To him it was 'suggestive,' to her or to Soriano or to others it may have just been a hand on the arm. Big deal. This is a news story, that Erin Andrews touched Soriano's bicep?
     
  5. Dickens Cider

    Dickens Cider New Member

    As an aside, Sun-Times beat writer Gordon Wittenmyer posted this during the game in question:

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/cubs/2008/07/espns_erin_andrews_in_the_hous.html

    The only thing in the post is a picture of Erin Andrews that looks like it was taken with a cell phone.

    What possible news value does this have? Why is it posted on the Web site of a major metropolitan newspaper?
     
  6. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Grazed it to get to someone's locker? No.

    Held it in a way that I envision based on that description? Fuck yes.

    I don't want that shit going either way.
     
  7. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    That 'description' was merely the word 'suggestive' which is completely subjective. Whatever you envision is completely the product of your own fantasy, not the result of his detailed reporting of the event.
     
  8. JakeandElwood

    JakeandElwood Well-Known Member

    It has none. It was posted because the Sun Times goes for stuff like that. I know I've poster their "hottest fan" contest on another thread somewhere.
     
  9. Dickens Cider

    Dickens Cider New Member

    Yeah, but this is Wittenmyer himself (I'm assuming; judging by the file name on the photo) doing it. He just came from Minneapolis last year. Why would he lower himself like this?
     
  10. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    When (and why) did we start pretending that Erin Andrews is just another hard-working journalist trying to do her job without calling attention to herself?
     
  11. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Hey, when Erin wore that same dress on our date the other night, I was OK with it.
     
  12. Notepad

    Notepad Member

    Which is the fundamental problem.
    People like her f@ck it up for guys like me who have to be in a clubhouse every day because it confuses the players.
    'Reporters' such as Ms. Andrews get in, do nice stories, kiss a guy on the cheek, tell him he's great, etc. then they leave not to be seen from again.
    The players are confused by people such as that, as it leaves them wondering what the role of the media is and why everyone can't 'be that nice.'
     
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