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Erin Andrews and the Cubs locker room: Discuss

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by hondo, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    The column/blog entry was interesting. Guy gave fans some insight into a moment within a moment in time.

    As I read it I thought about how Erin might have needed some validation that particular day. Maybe she and her boyfriend got into a fight. Maybe he called her a whore, or maybe he didn't tell her how pretty she was when she really needed to be told she was pretty.

    The touching of the biceps is probably the real issue here.

    But the entry itself was interesting.
     
  2. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    So if I show up to some event in a Hugo Boss jacket, and a coach says he likes it, then all of a sudden somebody's going to drop everything and write a column about it? That's the justification?
    Bullcrap.
    This was sexist garbage. No excuse for it.
    The piece made it sound like EA was dressed to move from the locker room to the stripper pole. It was a nice dress, made somewhat more noticeable by who was wearing it. Again, no excuse for writing what he did.
     
  3. PopeDirkBenedict

    PopeDirkBenedict Active Member

    As 21 pointed out, all we have are his adjectives of the touching and a "Hey, trust me, I know what I saw." I'm not going to excoriate Erin Andrews for what was likely a harmless touching on a "trust me." A columnist shouldn't need to use a "Trust me, I know what I saw" clause. We should be good enough at collecting facts and telling stories that the context is obvious from our writing.
     
  4. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    You're right. Who knows what happened in the locker room. But I think that's a strange thing to throw out there if you wanted to spite someone. He could've gone on and on about her (in his eyes) floozy outfit. But why say she was touching his biceps? Unless he's just a liar. Then that becomes the issue.
     
  5. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    Yeah, but you build a whole column around this "touching" thing?
    Was she squeezing his biceps like, 'Oh, what big muscles you have?"
    Or did she maybe just gesture and touch him on the arm the way a lot of people might? We don't know. If there's no context, it's not worth mentioning.
    There's a big-time college basketball coach who, if he's sitting next to you and speaking with you, will whack you on the knee 32 times in an 8-minute conversation. Is that worth a story, too?
     
  6. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member

    Hugo Boss, nah. Member's Only? You can count on it.

    The original column says much more about Mike Nadel than it does about Erin Andrews.
     
  7. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Well, the only way to know is to ask the other players who saw the bicep-touchery what they saw.

    And Members Only? C'mon, it's all Ton Sur Ton these days!
     
  8. The Granny

    The Granny Guest

    What ever happened to London Fog?
     
  9. forever_town

    forever_town Well-Known Member

    I know as much about fashion as I do about women.

    But "trust me, I know what I saw" is in no way a legitimate sentence for any journalist to write or speak. If Erin Andrews touched the guy's bicep, that's inexcusable. But so is racism, sexism or homophobia.
     
  10. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    London Fog went out with the parachute pants I used to wear in the 8th grade. I loved those things; I looked just like Billy Idol from the waist down.
     
  11. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    It was 'suggestively'!!

    Every time I read that I start laughing again.

    Maybe the Cubs need a big sign in the clubhouse that reads "DO NOT TOUCH THE BALLPLAYERS! SUGGESTIVELY OR OTHERWISE! THIS MEANS YOU, ESPN!"
     
  12. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Was there a hidden video camera in the locker room?

    Anyhoo, what if it was an innocent touch with an innocent girly giggle? (and that comment isn't meant to be sexist).

    See, now I'm intrigued.
     
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