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Erin Andrews and the Cubs locker room: Discuss

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by hondo, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    With the way ESPN craves PR, they may encourage Erin Andrews to wear a halter top and hot pants, figuring that would get more columnists than Nadel responding.
     
  2. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    buck, I admire your integrity. I'm not quite so sure about your journalistic instincts on this one.
     
  3. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Yeah, I took that last line out. ;)

    I just automatically distrust when media members use their platform to pass judgment on how other people in the media act in a clubhouse, no matter how much of a "celebrity" they are. We've all seen bad behavior -- if it bothers you, then say something to them. Or let it go.
     
  4. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    Yes, whatever you do, don't tell the <i>readers</i> about it.
     
  5. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    The same old bacon on this board, fizzing and sputtering in its own fat and grease.
     
  6. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Smasher, I thought it made Nadel appear just as unprofessional as he thought Andrews acted.
     
  7. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    You do understand that this took place in the clubhouse, and not the press box. Her interaction with the players is the point of the column. He did not eavesdrop, did not peek through a crack in the door.

    I can't see any way to apply the word "unprofessional" to the column.
     
  8. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    It came off as petty, IMO. Petty > unprofessional as a word choice? I can live with that. Either way, I didn't like it.
     
  9. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    I disagree.... If I think my readers will be interested in it, I'm running it.
     
  10. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    That's because we, as a profession, would rather cut our forefinger off than point it at ourselves.

    Very thin-skinned, defensive bunch, especially considering the ridiculous (and, judging by this board, hypocritical) standards to which we hold the people we cover.
     
  11. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    bookmark
     
  12. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    It was a weak column/blog. Perhaps it was intended as something along the lines of what the headline suggests it is, but it really doesn't read that way.

    Not even addressing my opinion of this piece as a story/column idea, there just is not enough connection made between the pedestrian, AP-style game stuff, and Andrews' presence in the clubhouse, and there is not enough analysis of the reasons for, and reactions to, the Cubs' recent turnaround.

    Moreover, this back-and-forth discussion and all these various hits-and-misses of any intended point to the original story would have been both helped, and minimized, with one simple sentence.

    Andrews declined to comment.

    Or, something along those lines, if not at least one direct quote from her addressing the topic(s). I mean, did Andrews have any idea, at all, that this column/blog was going to come out?

    As it is written, this piece -- on a potentially explosive topic, from what possibly could be construed as a sexist point of view, and veiled in implied-but-otherwise-unsupported innuendo without any context -- fairly cries out for a comment from Andrews. Or, at least, an assurance that some attempt was made to get one.

    Even if the writer is a columnist/blogger.

    Otherwise, neither is being what he/she should be first and foremost: a journalist.
     
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