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Erin Andrews and the Cubs locker room: Discuss

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by hondo, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member

    Always thought Adrian Karsten did a nice job on the sidelines for ESPN on college football games. He seemed to be able to bring across information or perspective beyond the who's injured or coachspeak interview we normally get.
     
  2. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Adrian wasn't too bad. But again, any information could've been acquired and provided by the play by play and color guys for those games. That's why they're calling the games.
     
  3. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    Dr. Jerry Punch had the right idea, but he went too far.
     
  4. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Wearing skin tight shorts?
     
  5. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    Well, I wasn't watching his shorts, Ace, but ... that's OK ... ;)
     
  6. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    Armen Keteyian was way over-qualified for the job, but at least he was an actual reporter.
     
  7. Clerk Typist

    Clerk Typist Guest

    Not if the info was on something happening during the game - an injury, an overheard argument, etc. You've got to be down there to hear it. Use one guy upstairs and one downstairs if you like. Works on TSN hockey.
     
  8. Joe Williams

    Joe Williams Well-Known Member

    I usually learn something worthwhile from David Aldridge, surely more than from most of 'em.
     
  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    So I finally heard about this and, yep, the original column is a batch of creepiness in my book, a bunch of hand-wringing nonsense from a guy who's a little too interested in how the attractive female in the room is conducting herself.

    21's spot on: If Andrews has, indeed, overplayed style over substance, it'll catch up with her. It always does - for men or women.

    I'm not sure she has, though. She seems about par for the ESPN sideline reporter course. Not in the first cut. Certainly not in the last.

    As I've said before, since the beginning of being on here, in fact: Men tend to read more into what female sportswriters/broadcasting are projecting than what they intended to project. And, no, it's not solely a woman's responsibility to know every nuance of the creeptionary. Sometimes, it's on the men not to be leering creeps.

    I wonder if Nadal's column had been written a different way, castigating the players, and Pinella, for directing such attitudes and comments toward Andrews, if the response would have been better. And, ultimately, more useful.

    I know this: It would have been no less accurate.

    (FYI...if you want to know how I rate sideline reporters, I generally have them reading one of Lupica's monologues at the end of Sports Reporters and imagine how credible they'd sound: <i>In this time, in that place, with those people, doing the things that they do at a rate surpassing that which others do the...uh...I think we've finally seen that which we have never seen before. At least since that time. With those people. In that place.</i>
     
  10. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    That is inspired.
     
  11. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Now picture ESPN's stable of sideline reporters saying it. And Brent Musberger. I'd probably pay, like, a dime to hear Musberger say it. A whole dime.

    The other thing I like about Andrews is that she holds the mic below her mouth, not cocked at a 45 degree angle. I'm sure Bob Costas has a reason for doing that, it just looks indiscreet.

    Seriously, though, main point: The world would be just a touch better if guys weren't trying to size up the length of her skirt or whatever. If she dresses like Elle Driver from "Kill Bill," (eye patch included) yeah, OK, freak out. Otherwise...why give anybody a complex they're not trying to earn?
     
  12. Another view of the whole thing, which also manages to rip Mariotti (always a good idea).

    http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-080805-greenstein-erin-andrews-espn-nadel,1,6142055.column
     
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