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Erin Andrews and the Cubs locker room: Discuss

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by hondo, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. Flash

    Flash Guest


    This is the worst of it, though: We now have journalists taking sides for another journalist, ripping or defending the original column.

    We aren't supposed to be writing about us.
     
  2. Cousin Jeffrey

    Cousin Jeffrey Active Member

    It's a media column. Who's it supposed to be about?
     
  3. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I had the same thought.

    Teddy Greenstein | ON SPORTS MEDIA AND COLLEGES


    Right there are the top.
     
  4. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Better get used to writing about ... us.

    That thinking is as antiquated as having a beer with a ballplayer or advertising never affecting the editorial product.
     
  5. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    I love Nadal's comment on Marriotti:

    "Here's a guy who wrote in his own paper that too many reporters are too close to the people they cover," Nadel said. "But he has no problem with an ESPN reporter who hugs people she interviews?

    "And here's a guy who criticizes my observations in the clubhouse … and he hasn't been in the clubhouse in five years."
     
  6. Flash

    Flash Guest

    Seems to me there are far more interesting things to write about than each other ...
     
  7. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Well, a media columnist who doesn't write about the media is gonna be out of work pretty soon, I reckon.
     
  8. Flash

    Flash Guest

    Is Nadal a media columnist? No ...
    Is Marriotti? No ...
     
  9. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Oh, yeah. Those guys should have found something better to do. But then, it sure helped out the media writer.
     
  10. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    Simon got this idea somewhere, don't know where, and he's totally out of left field with it.

    People DON'T want to know about us. We're the flies on the wall. And for a group of people who purport to hold the tenets of their profession in such high esteem, that's what we SHOULD be.
     
  11. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Erin Andrews is not a fly on the wall.
     
  12. Joe Williams

    Joe Williams Well-Known Member

    If Ozzie Guillen questions Jay Mariotti's professionalism (and sexual leanings, while he's at it), then that's worth writing about.

    If a no-name writer from a chain of smallish papers opines about a media person because of her looks or some shaky aspect of how she might or might not do her work (which doesn't seem to be a problem for ESPN viewers), that's not worth writing about. Certainly not for a Mariotti or even for a Greenstein, who either was looking for an easy day at the office or is succumbing -- like so many at once-venerable operations -- to chasing eyeballs by any means possible.

    This is a Paris Hilton-Nicole Richie waste o' time, but because the mainstream media can claim that "people are talking about it" and "Web sites are writing about it," they justify wading in. Same crap is going on with rumors that originate with callers to sports talk radio shows. Thresholds have been lowered to the point of non-existence as papers get more and more desperate.

    Gimme a break.
     
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