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ESPN is at rock bottom...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by poindexter, Dec 13, 2012.

  1. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    If only this were the first (or 300th) time. Parker is a jackass Drip. One day you'll admit it. Maybe.

    My first thought, too.

    Might be tough to recall, but yes, there was a time that Berman was a well-respected broadcaster.
     
  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    RG2 weighs in.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/redskins/2012/12/13/robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-rob-parker/1768501/?sf7864787=1

    "He needs to define what 'one of us' is. That guy needs to define that," he said. "I wouldn't say it's racism. I would just say some people put things out there about people so they can stir things up.

    "Robert is in really good shape on who he is, where he needs to get to in order to seek the goals he has in life ... so I don't take offense."
     
  3. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    I didn't say his answer was intricate. I wrote that you could provide an intricate answer.

    If the best you can do is "it was stupid" -- a 11-year-old kid could tell you that. Lots of things are stupid to say. Saying "RGIII scores touchdowns like a fat man eats donuts!" is stupid. It is stupid for a different reason than what Rob Parker said is stupid.

    And when Azrael posits a thought -- whether it's a decent one or not, hard to say -- it's shot down with "my African-American friends think you're clueless." All right then -- what do they say about it? If this issue isn't about authenticity or identity, what's it about?
     
  4. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    I'd like to know how the following quotes, from the original post's link, portray Griffin as "distancing himself from his blackness."

    “Whenever you can relate to the population of the team that you play for, I think it makes it that much more special,” Griffin said. “I don’t play too much into the color game, because I don’t want to be the best African American quarterback, I want to be the best quarterback.

    “But to the fans, and to the fans who think that way and look at me as an African American, it’s important that I succeed, not only for this team, but for them,” he continued. “Because it gives them that motivation, that hey, you know, an African American went out and played quarterback for my Washington Redskins. So I appreciate that; I don’t ever downplay anything like that. Whoever I can go out every week and motivate to do better and to try to go after their dreams, I’m up for that.”

    ...

    “I am [aware] of how race is relevant to [some fans]. I don’t ignore it,” Griffin said Wednesday. “I try not to be defined by it, but I understand different perspectives and how people view different things. So I understand they’re excited their quarterback is an African American. I play with a lot of pride, a lot of character, a lot of heart. So I understand that, and I appreciate them for being fans.”


    He doesn't want to be defined by race, which is what we need in this country. Griffin is embraced by all (OK< most) fans because of who he is, as well as his talent. People like him can transform the topic of race in this country, but I guess the point that Parker wants to make is that he is not doing that by simply not "acting black" or embracing his culture. But I would argue that he is doing exactly that by having kids of all races and nationalities admiring a black man. THAT is the way to combat racism.
     
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Of note to this: The last time we were bantering about First Take and ridiculous racial assertions about the Redskins' quarterback, it was when Bayless said white folks wanted RG3 to fail and Kirk Cousins to take over.

    http://www.sportsjournalists.com/forum/threads/92343/

    Same show. Same producers. Same everything except just the idiot in the other chair speaking this time.
     
  6. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    That's fucking meta.
     
  7. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    Why does anyone give a rat's ass what Rob Parker thinks or says? I sure don't. I don't waste my time watching this nonsense.
     
  8. 3OctaveFart

    3OctaveFart Guest

    The problem with First Take, besides being bad TV, is it used to have a rotation of reasonably sane or competent moderators.
     
  9. spikechiquet

    spikechiquet Well-Known Member

    I guess someone just needs to ask RG3 how long he has been a black quarterback.
     
  10. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Why does anyone have to be any level of black or white or green? Jeez, just live life as you're meant to live it. All I know is that Griffin, Taneyhill and Manziel have done Texas college quarterbacks proud as far as choice of wife/girlfriend.

    And Brip saying what his "friends" are saying is like when someone on here says, "My friend just told me about this great new porn site, and yes, Sonner, it's free!"
     
  11. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    When Azreal posits a thought which says that he thinks Rob Parker's "approach to the subject was meant to be sincere", I really don't think its hard to say whether its a decent thought. Its not even close to being a decent thought. Its a downright lousy thought. Rob Parker is paid to throw shit against walls, not have sincere discussions.
     
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    Don't misquote me. Thanks.


     
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