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Even The Wolf likely can't clean up Harvey Weinstein's pending troubles

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Double Down, Oct 5, 2017.

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  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Bush: 'Read my lips: New taxes'

    By Glenn Thrush
    New York Times
     
  2. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    It's really not, since you believe this.

    No. That is a complete and total lie. As someone who is skeptical about almost everything, please don't passively buy in this bullshit lie.
     
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  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I understand this.

    What I'm saying is that "good folks" get taken in by some of the marketing these groups employ.

    There aren't enough white supremacists or neo-Nazis. If you specifically only market to them, not many folks will show up. (Dylann couldn't find anyone who wanted to join his effort to start a race war, and it upset him.)

    So, they misrepresent themselves in their marketing, hoping to get some new folks there, who they can attempt to convert. They're like time share companies who convince people to come for a "free vacation". It's a bait and switch, all geared towards a sales pitch.

    There were definitely people who showed up thinking they were there to "defend Southern heritage" or to fight against "political correctness". Now, they might be idiots, and they might be duped, but it doesn't mean they're white supremacists or neo-Nazis.
     
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Do you know what "ostensibly" means?
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    You've gone through all of the marketing materials, have you?
     
  6. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    That's horseshit. There are plenty of racists, in fact way too many. Just because you're not a card-carrying, hood-wearing Klan member doesn't mean you're not a white supremacist.

    And nobody was confused by the marketing brochures.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Jemele Hill didn't change the definition of "white supremacist" until after Charlottesville, though, correct?
     
  8. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    She never changed it. You narrowed it to suit your convenience.

    su·prem·a·cist
    so͞oˈpreməsəst/
    noun
    1.
    an advocate of the supremacy of a particular group, especially one determined by race or sex.
    "a white supremacist"
    If you believe you as a white person are superior to others based on your race, you are in fact a white supremacist.
     
  9. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    Anybody else read the list? The sports writers — past and present — mentioned were Greg Howard (alleging sexual assault, among other things), AJ Daulerio, Tommy Craggs, Tomas Rios, Rembert Browne and Mike Tunison.

    The list is not that long. I’d like to think women wouldn’t just tack a guy’s name on there bc he was just an asshole, but who can say? Good to know my opinion of Greg Howard as a piece of shit is at least partially confirmed.
     
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  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    You don't know that. You are making up what you want to say he believes, but you absolutely do not know what is in his mind. It is absolutely possible that he believes white supremacists are fine people. Is that something we can prove? No. Is it something you can disprove? No.

    The rest is you making shit up.
     
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    If YF wrote, "Trump said he believes ..." then he's dead-on.

    Based upon what Trump wrote, you can't write, "Trump defended white supremacists" as an established fact in a news story, even if it seems so fun.
     
  12. TyWebb

    TyWebb Well-Known Member

    Can you write, "Trump said there were 'some very fine people' on the side of the protest that largely consisted of white supremacists."?
     
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