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Here's the thing: I can appreciate that, in their positions of generally getting what they want, men like Thrush and Rose believed they were pursuing, as Rose said "shared feelings." They weren't, and they were deluded and wrong, but can I believe they might have been deluded? Sure.

Men are horrible at reading women. we often don't know when they feel compromised or put upon or emotionally violated because they don't say, or there are competing emotions, or whatever it is. Which is why the standard for men - the standard men hold themselves to - shouldn't be consent, or perception of "shared feelings" or whatever. It has to be higher and smarter than that.

 

You know, it used to be that a guy who asked something like "Is it ok to kiss you?" would be considered a wuss. A man was supposed to know, to read the signs and go for it. Sometimes maybe you were wrong and she turned a cheek, but that was the deal. Anymore, talking clearly about consent first is probably somewhere between considerate and wise.

I read all this stuff and I'm to the point that if there's a woman in the office I'd feel safer asking "Hey, we get these kinda flirty innuendo exchanges going sometimes. Are you ok with that or am I going over the line?". Shit, I might feel safer asking it and keeping a recording of the answer. (Joking. Kinda. About the recording part).

Glad I'm married... but I work with nurses, and the shit that gets talked sometimes, even if there is absolutely no intent whatsoever... I wouldn't want to have to explain it to HR.

 

Uh oh. YF! Air Fuck One alert!

Bill Clinton is accused of sexual assault by four women

I especially like the last bullet below:

 

I could imagine it a little in law now. I’m surprised still at my smaller shop to hear people talk about their dieting, dating, etc. You never heard that stuff at the corporate behemoth firm. It was coldly professional. A lot about what huge assholes people were. But nothing sexual.

 

Air F**k One ... sorry gang, I laughed.

 

I knew it! There's an SJ conspiracy to not encourage me.

This Thanksgiving, I'm thankful for all of you anyway.

Shitheads.

 

Up until about five weeks ago, I suspect this remained true.

 

This is quite true. I can remember being chewed out for politely asking, and lectured on how women hate when men ask, and real men just know and go for it assertively.

Not sure how that script applies today. No doubt just going for it still works great IF you read the signals right, but boy, you're treading in a mighty risky minefield if you mistakenly misread.

 

I received one of those lectures, too, from a woman I asked.

Yet I still asked the next time I wanted to kiss a woman. That particular relationship didn't last long, but I can still remember the way she voiced her agreement and the fun that followed.

Ragu, I'm not sure you are right about that. I think misread signals on a first date could lead to real trouble now. Or perhaps a situation that it isn't quite clear that it is a date. Maybe one or both people want it to be one, but it wasn't made 100 percent clear.

Of course, I say this as a man who has been on exactly one date with a woman other than my wife since the day I met her in 1995. (I had already planned a date with another woman the following day, but I knew five minutes in I was only interested in my future wife, so that date went nowhere.)

 

Always reminds me of a lyric in the 3 Times Dope song Funky Dividends ...

It's a shame. Nowadays you've got to stay paid
It ain't like the old days, when you could serenade
Take walks with your girl at night in the park
And in the shadow, secretly steal her heart

 

Reminder: 'Groping' And 'Unwanted Kissing' Is Definitely Sexual Assault | HuffPost

Both Trump’s comments and the allegations against him (if true), do fall under the category of sexual assault. Groping and kissing a person without their consent is, indeed, a form of sexual assault.