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Explosion at Boston Marathon II

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Elliotte Friedman, Apr 16, 2013.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Bob, she received 45% of the vote because she was the Republican nominee running against Harry Reid.

    Sharron Angle is a nobody.

    Sarah Palin at least has a following. Sharron Angle would have a hard time filling her dining room table for a dinner party.
     
  2. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    Good point here:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mike-elk-the-texas-fertilizer-plant-explosion-cannot-be-forgotten/2013/04/23/48eb770c-ac26-11e2-b6fd-ba6f5f26d70e_story.html?hpid=z4

    With so many lives at stake, it is the duty of the media to, at the very least, dedicate as much reporting to West, Tex., as we do Boston. Indeed, the unbalanced coverage, some would argue, could have negative consequences across the board. As Ken Ward Jr. of the Charleston (W.Va.) Gazette, who has covered the Upper Big Branch mine explosion more than any other reporter, tweeted, “Terrorists want media attention, so we give it to them. Unsafe industries don’t want media attention — so we give that to them.”
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    C'mon Dick.

    There are folks on the "American right" urging the executions of politicians? Who? Where?

    If you become an ardent supporter of the Republican Party, the Catholic Church, the Pro-Life movement, etc., you are extremely unlikely to encounter leaders of these groups who will encourage you to commit murder or acts of terror.

    If you embrace Islam, as you become more religious, you are likely to be exposed to Imams and others -- with large, international followings -- who will do just that.

    And, they will tell you that these acts are a religious obligation. For someone who has recently embraced their faith, that's a pretty big deal.

    That's a pretty big difference between anything you will find among any "right wing" movement.
     
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    CNN's lead story, in which it continues to hide Tamerlan's radical Islamist influences:

    (CNN) -- The evolution of Tamerlan Tsarnaev from aspiring Olympic boxer to apparent self-radicalized jihadist may have been influenced by a friend in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
     
  5. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    A better comparison is the Patriot Movement and Alex Jones -- whose fans included Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/apparently-tamerin-tsarnaev-influences-include-alex-jones-radical-exorcist/64509/

    (If you click on the link, you'll see a photo that proves Tsarneav's mother once sang lead for the Cure.)
     
  6. BenPoquette

    BenPoquette Active Member

    YF is pointing out how he was moved to action by RADICAL Islam and you all are acting like he is condemning the entire religion. He isn't. You are the ones grouping the radicals in with the non-radicals. Instead of always looking at who the poster is and deciding he/she is wrong before reading the argument, how about you think about what he is saying instead of assuming he is denigrating an entire religion?

    Do you really think he considers ALL muslims to have terror in their hearts? Do you really think he considers all his muslim customers as potential terrorists?
     
  7. waterytart

    waterytart Active Member

    Yeah, pretty much.
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I think you misread the argument.

    I don't think that YF is flogging the entire religion. In fact, I don't care if he were. That'd be a different debate.

    But he's wrong in asserting that "most" mainstream media outlets are ignoring radical Islam's role. I think he's playing semantics. Do I think that some commentators become uncomfortable in knowing precisely how to discuss this? I do. But this all began because AP said that it was "unclear" precisely which religious views motivated Tamerlan. It was an inartful way of putting it, but I'm not convinced that it was inaccurate. Even within radical Islam, there are different strains, different leaders, and different motivations. Is this not what AP could have meant?
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yes. Not all Muslims are radicals, terrorists, or anything remotely similar.

    But, the fact is that most of the folks who have committed acts of terror weren't motivated initially to commit terror.

    Take Tamerlan. (And, the Times Square bomber's story is very similar.) OK, the guy is a "disaffected" loser, right?

    But, that didn't drive him to terrorism.

    What started him on the path to terrorism was his embrace of Islam. That's what led him to "radical" Islam.
     
  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Maybe I'm just surprised that the media, and politicians, and others are constantly surprised that one could find the motivation for terror somewhere inside of Islam.

    It's there. If you embrace Islam, you will be exposed to it. Now, most will reject it, but it's there.
     
  11. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I blame the full religion because they have been mostly silent on speaking out against
    radical islam.
     
  12. waterytart

    waterytart Active Member

    YF, you sound like '60s parents lecturing "Smoke one marijuana cigarette and you'll end up dead in an alley with a needle in your arm!"

    It was true that most dead junkies probably started with smoking dope. It's not predictive the other way around.

    Just like embracing Islam isn't predictive of terrorism.
     
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