Family Secrets

I don't know where this killing stuff came from. I just said that I'm not into the homosexual lifestyle and that it is written about in the Bible. All the rest of this stuff is someone's imagination running way overboard.

 

Anyone who argues with Drip might as well be arguing with Manky. At least Manky is funny, sometimes. It's not worth the headache, people.

 

As a response to Drip's post about Levitcus 18:22, right?

 

To be clear on my view here … this is something I really struggle with as a Christian. I have friends who are gay and/or bi-sexual. I don’t believe it’s a choice, because I know they’ve struggled with it. But I also believe what the Bible says, and that includes pre-marital sex, adultery, etc.

As a society, we place a value on certain actions. What’s a worse crime? Stealing a car, or breaking into a home and stealing a TV? Jerry Sandusky, or the people involved in the Enron scandal?

Christian do the same thing with sin, forgetting that sin is sin to God. If we go by the Bible, murder = wearing clothing of wool and linen woven together; adultery = getting a tattoo. I can’t tell you how many Christians, including my wife, have a tattoo. I’ve considered getting a tattoo. But if you mentioned adultery or murder to those same Christians, it’s terribly wrong. Is it hypocritical? Of course, but we’re human, and we sin too.

I also understand Drip’s viewpoint here, that he doesn’t agree with homosexuality, but that it’s not his place to judge. I trust he agrees that he sins too.

My wife attended a Christian college (I don’t think I need to elaborate on the conservative values at that type of institution). During her junior year, my wife’s best friend’s roommate came out of the closet. The roommate’s best friend went to the school’s administration to report it. My wife’s best friend asked my wife for advice, what to do because she didn’t think it was right to report it, but just didn’t know what to do. My wife suggested she be a friend to her roommate, not to judge her, not to take it to the school. Be a friend, listen.

Jesus teaches us to love one another. He set the example by hanging out and sharing wine with the people everyone said to stay away from. Unfortunately, too many Christians forget this, and it gives all of us a bad reputation.

The school did not kick the girl out of school.

 

Apples are written about in the Bible. You friends with any apples? How about asses?

 

Yes, it was. And I do understand that it can be hard to reconcile religious teachings sometimes. It's just that so many people seem to cherry pick the verses that support their world view and ignore the ones that don't.

I don't hate religion - many of my family and friends find comfort in it. Personally, although I get paid to go to church, I like having that 1-1/2 each week to ponder bigger questions. I just think one needs to be consistent if you're going to follow a religious text. Either it's literal or it's allegorical it seems to me.

 

Really? This is more interesting.

 

I could give two shits if someone is gay. It does not affect me or my family at all.

If it pisses God off, then that's between the two of them.

It amazes me the time and energy we spend on this subject in this country.

 

A family secret that isn't: A tweet from Ronan Farrow, the 24-year-old son of Mia Farrow and Woody Allen, “Happy father’s day — or as they call it in my family, happy brother-in-law’s day.”

 

Bingo.

Either you look at The Bible as a guidebook chock full of anecdotes about how to live a better life for the betterment of mankind, as written and later interpreted by a series of scholars, elders, and politicians intent on supporting their own private agendas by writing about "historical" events some several centuries in the past...or you support it word-for-word as God's will, in which case it seems to me you should behold every tenant, every word, as a command from God.

IMO, you can't have it both ways without invalidating it.

 

Well that would be nice, except that not every book in the Bible was written the same way.

"Bible" is not a literary genre. It's also important to remember the Bible is an anthology. It's only recently (post Protestant reformation) that Bible was looked at by some as one book. For the first 1500 years, it was understood that it is a collection of books. That's why you'll find many letters and articles written by Church scholars of the past discussing what really was scripture, and what should be adhered to. For example, Martin Luther questioned Revelation's canonical status.

 

So we're back to: What version of the Bible says homosexuals are to be killed?

Edit: I interpreted Stitch's comment to suggests the Bible says both homosexuals and adulterers should be killed.