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Rusty Shackleford · Jun 26, 2012

93Devil said:

I could give two shits if someone is gay. It does not affect me or my family at all.

If it pisses God off, then that's between the two of them.

It amazes me the time and energy we spend on this subject in this country.
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WFW. Couldn't have phrased it better.

KYSportsWriter · Jun 26, 2012

Big Buckin' agate_monkey said:

To be clear on my view here … this is something I really struggle with as a Christian. I have friends who are gay and/or bi-sexual. I don’t believe it’s a choice, because I know they’ve struggled with it. But I also believe what the Bible says, and that includes pre-marital sex, adultery, etc.

As a society, we place a value on certain actions. What’s a worse crime? Stealing a car, or breaking into a home and stealing a TV? Jerry Sandusky, or the people involved in the Enron scandal?

Christian do the same thing with sin, forgetting that sin is sin to God. If we go by the Bible, murder = wearing clothing of wool and linen woven together; adultery = getting a tattoo. I can’t tell you how many Christians, including my wife, have a tattoo. I’ve considered getting a tattoo. But if you mentioned adultery or murder to those same Christians, it’s terribly wrong. Is it hypocritical? Of course, but we’re human, and we sin too.

I also understand Drip’s viewpoint here, that he doesn’t agree with homosexuality, but that it’s not his place to judge. I trust he agrees that he sins too.

My wife attended a Christian college (I don’t think I need to elaborate on the conservative values at that type of institution). During her junior year, my wife’s best friend’s roommate came out of the closet. The roommate’s best friend went to the school’s administration to report it. My wife’s best friend asked my wife for advice, what to do because she didn’t think it was right to report it, but just didn’t know what to do. My wife suggested she be a friend to her roommate, not to judge her, not to take it to the school. Be a friend, listen.

Jesus teaches us to love one another. He set the example by hanging out and sharing wine with the people everyone said to stay away from. Unfortunately, too many Christians forget this, and it gives all of us a bad reputation.

The school did not kick the girl out of school.
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Well said.

This is something I struggle with, too. I don't care if someone's gay or whatever ... if that's the way they want to live their lives, fine. One of my best friends growing up came out to me and a few other friends just before our senior year started. The majority of the group didn't treat him any differently, though one did quit being friends with all of us because we chose to still include him as part of our group.

But it wasn't my place -- or my friends' places -- to judge him. The guy is a Christian; he was raised in the church, just like I was. We're still friends today, and I love him as if he was my real brother.

JC · Jun 26, 2012

MisterCreosote said:

I have three brothers. My dad, at one time or another, had suspicions that each of the four of us was gay. It was as if he wanted a gay son and was disappointed he didn't have one. That's all I got.
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Well, he sure did get a lot of daughter in laws.

Ace · Jun 26, 2012

KYSportsWriter said:

Big Buckin' agate_monkey said:

To be clear on my view here … this is something I really struggle with as a Christian. I have friends who are gay and/or bi-sexual. I don’t believe it’s a choice, because I know they’ve struggled with it. But I also believe what the Bible says, and that includes pre-marital sex, adultery, etc.

As a society, we place a value on certain actions. What’s a worse crime? Stealing a car, or breaking into a home and stealing a TV? Jerry Sandusky, or the people involved in the Enron scandal?

Christian do the same thing with sin, forgetting that sin is sin to God. If we go by the Bible, murder = wearing clothing of wool and linen woven together; adultery = getting a tattoo. I can’t tell you how many Christians, including my wife, have a tattoo. I’ve considered getting a tattoo. But if you mentioned adultery or murder to those same Christians, it’s terribly wrong. Is it hypocritical? Of course, but we’re human, and we sin too.

I also understand Drip’s viewpoint here, that he doesn’t agree with homosexuality, but that it’s not his place to judge. I trust he agrees that he sins too.

My wife attended a Christian college (I don’t think I need to elaborate on the conservative values at that type of institution). During her junior year, my wife’s best friend’s roommate came out of the closet. The roommate’s best friend went to the school’s administration to report it. My wife’s best friend asked my wife for advice, what to do because she didn’t think it was right to report it, but just didn’t know what to do. My wife suggested she be a friend to her roommate, not to judge her, not to take it to the school. Be a friend, listen.

Jesus teaches us to love one another. He set the example by hanging out and sharing wine with the people everyone said to stay away from. Unfortunately, too many Christians forget this, and it gives all of us a bad reputation.

The school did not kick the girl out of school.
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Well said.

This is something I struggle with, too. I don't care if someone's gay or whatever ... if that's the way they want to live their lives, fine. One of my best friends growing up came out to me and a few other friends just before our senior year started. The majority of the group didn't treat him any differently, though one did quit being friends with all of us because we chose to still include him as part of our group.

But it wasn't my place -- or my friends' places -- to judge him. The guy is a Christian; he was raised in the church, just like I was. We're still friends today, and I love him as if he was my real brother.
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Good for you, KY.

Drip · Jun 27, 2012

dreunc1542 said:

Anyone who argues with Drip might as well be arguing with Manky. At least Manky is funny, sometimes. It's not worth the headache, people.
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Arguing? WTF are you smoking? This is NOT worth arguing about and I'm definitely not arguing with anyone on the thread. Get a grip and chill out.

Drip · Jun 27, 2012

Big Buckin' agate_monkey said:

HC said:

Big Buckin' agate_monkey said:

Stitch said:

Deuteronomy 22:21 mentions what women get if they have sex before marriage.

http://bible.cc/deuteronomy/22-21.htm
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OK, but we're talking about homosexuals, right?
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The original post was not talking about homosexuals. It was referring to heterosexual punishment for adultery as outlined in Leviticus.
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As a response to Drip's post about Levitcus 18:22, right?
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Yes.

Azrael · Jun 27, 2012

Leviticus 20:13 - the punishments phase of the same book of the Bible - specifies homosexuals be put to death.

www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+20%3A13&version=NIV

three_bags_full · Jun 27, 2012

Thanks for ruining a good thread, folks.

Bravo.

Stitch · Jun 27, 2012

three_bags_full said:

Thanks for ruining a good thread, folks.

Bravo.
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The thread, in it's original form, was on its last legs, anyway. It went off the rails when racist grandparents entered the picture.

Ace · Jun 27, 2012

Azrael said:

Leviticus 20:13 - the punishments phase of the same book of the Bible - specifies homosexuals be put to death.

www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+20%3A13&version=NIV
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Some of Drip's best friends are people who choose to be dead gays.

Drip · Jun 27, 2012

Ace said:

Azrael said:

Leviticus 20:13 - the punishments phase of the same book of the Bible - specifies homosexuals be put to death.

www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+20%3A13&version=NIV
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Some of Drip's best friends are people who choose to be dead gays.
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Not funny Ace. I have lost some very dear friends who happen to be gay.

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · Jun 27, 2012

Drip said:

Ace said:

Azrael said:

Leviticus 20:13 - the punishments phase of the same book of the Bible - specifies homosexuals be put to death.

www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+20%3A13&version=NIV
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Some of Drip's best friends are people who choose to be dead gays.
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Not funny Ace. I have lost some very dear friends who happen to be gay.
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Did Jesus kill them?

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