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Family Secrets

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by KJIM, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    KY.

    Oh, honey, no.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    It's brilliant, isn't it? I shouldn't try to "put words in his mouth". Though, if I wait long enough, he'll use them himself, despite denying that my words described his opinion.

    Ky would like to be accepting. He wants to be viewed that way by the liberals, who he sees as more reasonable, in general. He wants to be on the "right side" of these social issue.

    Except, he's not. His religious beliefs have him all twisted around.

    And, it's needless. You can be fully religious, and yet not be homophobic, or racist. It's not a "choice" between the two.
     
  3. Big Buckin' agate_monkey

    Big Buckin' agate_monkey Active Member

    So you agree both could be an option?
     
  4. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    If you're asking if someone could be born gay, and choose to live a lie as a straight person ... yes.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Thanks for clarifying.

    But, no, I don't think it's a "choice" in any way -- at all.

    Just because it may not be "genetic" doesn't mean it's a conscious "decision" one makes.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Exactly. One could choose to live a lie. It doesn't change who they are.
     
  7. KYSportsWriter

    KYSportsWriter Well-Known Member

    Whatever.

    I'm done.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Sorry if I'm not being clear enough.

    I do not believe it is an option to think of homosexuality as a "choice".

    What I'm trying to say is that others who think it is, shouldn't view it as an option -- or certainly the only option -- just because it may not be "genetic".

    Some seem to think it must be a "choice" since it hasn't been shown to be genetic. That's a false "choice".
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Why? Why run away?

    You might learn something -- about yourself even.

    You're views are actually understandable. They're widely held. (As were your grandparents views on race.)

    And, I don't believe you "chose" to believe the way you do. You were raised in a way where your way of thinking was the default.

    The only way to change your way of thinking is to challenge it. If it's sound, you will be able to defend it. If it's not, maybe you should re-examine your beliefs.

    And, don't use religion as an out. I'm not attacking your religious beliefs at all. You are perfectly capable of holding them, and having enlightened views on sexuality and race, at the same time.
     
  10. Big Buckin' agate_monkey

    Big Buckin' agate_monkey Active Member

    No, what I'm saying is you believe it's not a choice. Are you willing to accept that it could be a choice? How are you so sure it's not a choice? In your example, why is it so impossible for a straight person to live a lie as a gay/lesbian person?

    And it's not homophobic to believe homosexuality is a choice. You can believe it's a choice, and still be friends and love. It's called not judging.
     
  11. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    If it's possible for gay to act as straight, then the reverse is also true. Hell, thousands of girls in college and strip clubs prove that.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Sexuality emerges before one even reaches the age where they have a true understanding of it. Before they could possibly even ponder a "choice".

    Do you know even a single homosexual who has ever described their sexuality as a "choice"? Ever? Ever heard of such a claim by someone unknown to you?

    Is there something about homosexuality that a young child would see as some better "option" as opposed to heterosexuality?

    It's absurd. No one "chooses" heterosexuality. Why would we even consider it an option that homosexuality is a "choice"?
     
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