Fenian's Rainbow

Re: Hillary -Mission Unaccomplished

Well, sure, if you overlook this little flaw in the theory:
http://users.pandora.be/stalingrad/

 

Re: Hillary -Mission Unaccomplished

JDV,
When you set your mind to a task, it prevails; if passion holds sway, it consumes you, and the mind can do nothing.

 

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Why, because you got shredded mr "super" Canadian political guru. How many people does Canada have again? Oh right, less than CA - LOL.

The reason you don't want me to post is that being a Socialist yourself you see quite clearly that Hitler's platform was squarely Socialist. Thus, rendering your previous analysis, insults, and history lesson

Utterly baseless and defeated

Debate the merits of his platform

Oh right, you can't

 

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Not a very flattering portrait of Hillary - I laughed out loud at column title
Mama Hugs Iowa
By MAUREEN DOWD
DAVENPORT, Iowa

When she was little, Hillary Rodham would sit on a basement bench and pretend she was flying a spaceship to Mars. Her younger brother Hugh, perched behind, would sometimes beg for a chance to be captain.

No dice. “She would always drive, and I would always have to sit in the back,” he once told me.

Through all the years of sitting behind Bill Clinton on his trip to the stars, Hillary fidgeted and elbowed, trying to be co-captain rather than just wingman, or worse, winglady.

Finally, in Iowa, she was once more behind the wheel of her spaceship to Mars. She didn’t have to prop up Bill after one of his roguish pratfalls. She didn’t have to feign interest in East Wing piffle — table settings and pastry chefs and designer gowns. She didn’t have to defer to her male colleagues in the Senate, stepping back to give them the limelight.

She positively glistened as she talked about how “I” — rather than the “we” of ’92 — would run the world.

Humbly, graciously, deftly, she offered Iowa the answer to that eternal question, What Is Hillary Owed?

Everything.

John Wood, a self-described “plainsman,” Republican and machinery-and-tool salesman from Davenport, asked Hillary how she would handle the world’s evil and bad men, provoking the slyly ambiguous retort: “What in my background equips me to deal with evil and bad men?”

He said afterward that he was more worried about her ability to face down villains, “being a lady,” but conceded, “The woman did good today.”

(His question was reminiscent of Ali G’s interview of Newt Gingrich, when the faux rapper asked whether a woman president would be turned on and manipulated by evil dictators, given that, with women, “the worse you treat ’em, the more they want you.”)

As YouTube attests, Hillary didn’t care about style as first lady; she was too busy trying to get in on Bill’s substance. She showed off a long parade of unflattering outfits and unnervingly changing hairdos.

In Iowa, her national anthem may have been off-key, but her look wasn’t. It was an attractive mirror of her political message: man-tailored with a dash of pink femininity.

“I think you look very nice,” a veteran of the first gulf war told her in Des Moines.

“Thank you!” she answered, beaming and laughing.

When Geraldine Ferraro made her historic run in ’84, she tried to blend a mother’s concerns into her foreign policy answers, but it did not work so well once she started getting her nuclear terminology mixed up.

Hillary dealt with the issue head-on — “I’m a woman; I’m a mom” — hoping to stir that sisterly vote that Ms. Ferraro failed to draw after it turned out that many women were skeptical about one of their own facing down the Soviets.

 

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Unlike Barack Obama, who once said he was bored by the suburbs, she introduced herself in the land of bingo and bacon as a product of the suburbs, wallowing in the minutiae of kitchen-table issues.

W. and Cheney have lavished attention and money on Iraq, leaving Americans feeling neglected. Hillary offered Iowans a warm bath of “you,” homey rumination rather than harsh domination.

(Though Jon Stewart warned on “The Daily Show” that her slogan — “Let the conversation begin!” — will not help her with men. “I think the typical response would be, ‘Now?’ ” he said, adding that her new Iraq policy is, “America, let’s pull over and just ask for directions.”)

Thomasine Johnson, a 66-year-old African-American from outside Des Moines, complained that Hillary talked too much about “traditional women’s issues,” but many in the audiences seemed enthralled.

The Achilles’ heel of “The Warrior,” as she is known, is the war. She expressed outrage about Iraq, but ended up sounding like a mother whose teenage son has not cleaned up his room: “The president has said this is going to be left to his successor ... and I think it’s the height of irresponsibility, and I really resent it.”

She uttered the most irritating and disingenuous nine words in politics: “If we had known then what we know now. ...”

Jim Webb knew. Barack Obama knew. Even I knew, for Pete’s sake. The administration’s trickery was clear in real time.

Hillary didn’t have the nerve to oppose a popular president on a national security issue after 9/11, and she feared being cast as an antiwar hippie when she ran. Now she feels she can’t simply say she made a bad decision. And that makes her seem conniving — not a good mix with nurturing.

 

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Do you seriously not know history this bad FB?

1.) You keep putting up this Social Democrats cra@ when anyone who knows this history knows what that is about. Here is a clue how many DIFFERENT Socialist parties were there in Germany at the time?

(here is a hint more than one)

2.) When did the alliance with communist Russia and Hitler start & when/why did it end?

(Here is a hint when they were overrunning Belgium & France that was SOVIET gas they were using in their tanks)

Unreal

 

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How many parties called themselves socialist while being anything but? You're missing the point again.

Names here do not matter. Ideologies do. And Hitler's ideology was far from socialist.

 

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Anyone who's actually studied political science knows that the end result of extreme fascism and extreme socialism are similar, but the thought processes and actions that get a country there are far different.

But of course I should throw out everything I was ever taught b/c JDV said differently : : : :

 

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By that logic, you should not call GWB a conservative. I like GW on many things but there is a WHOLE lot of what he does that is not conservative at all & I don't agree with.

Look, I am trying to give you guys some real info & history here if you will slow down and listen to some facts.

Once the facts are laid out - then you do what you want with it. I spoke with Rokski last night & he completely agrees. Rok got his degree in Histroy from Cornell (Ivy League). He reminded me of Hitler's alliance with Stalin's Communist Russia.

Anyway, the main problem here is that for many years people just think of Hitler as bad, and for many people bad = right wing. Well, in Hitler's case he was bad and left wing.

 

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What does Canada's population have to do with the price of tea in China?

Debating your nonsense about Hitler is like debating an Intelligent Design proponent. It's impossible to have a discussion because your premise is absolutely ridiculous and absurd.

You don't have a clue about politics, about socialism, or history. None.

But you are one helluva windbag.

 

Re: Hillary -Mission Unaccomplished

Oh of course not. We call him a puppet who has been led astray by those who actually run the administration thanks to his lack of curiosity.

 

Re: Hillary -Mission Unaccomplished

No. We call him Fredo.