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Ferguson / Staten Island Decisions -- No Indictments

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Nov 16, 2014.

  1. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    And video evidence of your murder won't result in charges anyway. Good plan. ::)

    You know what your problem, Baron? You don't seem to understand that protecting the rights of the guilty protects the rights of the innocent. By allowing these officers to trample over the rights of petty criminals (or, hell, even vicious criminals), you are consenting to them trampling over the rights of the innocent as well.
     
  2. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    His problem is he lives in a make believe world.

    Come join us in the real world Baron, I'm sure the cop falsely accusing you will back right off and wait for your lawyer.
     
  3. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Words used to mean things. Today, a guy caught red-handed illegally selling "lucys" and then resisted his 32nd arrest and a guy who just robbed a store and then attacked a cop are "innocent victims."
     
  4. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    You watched the video right Tony? You saw a guy resisting arrrest? I heard a guy yelling he cant breathe while in a choke hold.
     
  5. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Who has described either of them as "innocent victims?" One can be guilty of a crime and a victim of another. Contrary to the beliefs of some, even committing a crime does not forfeit all of one's rights. There's a reason the Founding Fathers called life an "inalienable right."
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Unregulated commerce punishable by death -- who would have figured old_tony for that stance?
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    He did. Because you were doing nothing to break the law, nor were you physically resisting. It's on him.

    Eric Garner was breaking the law, and physically resisting. It's on him.

    Rodney King was breaking the law, and leading police on an eight-mile high speed chase on highways and residential neighborhoods before being caught. It's on him.
     
  8. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    You aren't working, get off the system, it's on you. Get a job.
     
  9. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    The police wouldn't have to worry about trampling the rights of guilty and innocent if there was little to no crime.

    A cop spending his time on a street corner directing traffic instead of chasing criminals is a cop you don't have to worry about shooting down a criminal.
     
  10. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Corrupt cops are bullies who count on their victims not being able to, or knowing how to, fight back. You start telling them that you know lawyers, will sue their asses, and have them lose their jobs, and they'll either think twice about what they're about to do, or they're so crazy, they'll do it anyways even if you don't fight back.
     
  11. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    No, they do not forfeit their rights. But by attempting to refuse to participate in the due process system, they are increasing the risk of harm, both to themselves and to the law enforcement folks.
     
  12. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    That's some fantasy world you've created there, Baron.
     
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