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Ferguson / Staten Island Decisions -- No Indictments

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Nov 16, 2014.

  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    So, factually speaking, we know Brown leaped into the car and attacked Wilson and it wasn't Wilson pulling at Brown?
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Seriously? Wouldn't this be fairly easy to prove in about two seconds.

    Either "witnesses" recanted their testimony, having admitted to not witnessing the events or they didn't.
     
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    George Zimmermen thinks Wilson was a pussy for even going to the hospital for his
    pimple
     
  4. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Yup. Punch a cop and he is justified in shooing you. That is a completely reasonable power to give to the government.
     
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    The prosecuting attorney has put on at least one case that boldly feature lies. And he has lied previously about his witness interviews and been caught in it. Nothing happened to him then and nothing would happen to him now.
     
  6. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    No harm in shooing.
     
  7. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    I agree with you on most of the stuff in this discussion, but I'm having trouble with your stance on witnesses lying.

    Brown's friend, who repeatedly stated Brown's hands were up, was probably lying. I can't see this as a "misremembering" problem. I just can't.

    If there actually was a witness who said Wilson stood over Brown and shot him, that person is lying.

    Wilson, in his testimony, is almost surely lying about things, but that doesn't mean the other statements aren't lies.
     
  8. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Witnesses lie. Cops misremember.
     
  9. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    I posted the link earlier -- people "remember" stuff that isn't actually a memory at all. Some could be lying. Probably are. Not all are lying, though. A person standing out there could in completely good faith say Wilson shot Brown while he was on his knees, because that's how the person remembers it, and the memory is simply wrong.

    It might sound wacky, but anyone in law enforcement knows this to be true.
     
  10. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Even if Wilson's story is not a total fabrication based on a lifetime of insulating himself in a racist culture, the way the investigation was handled was a complete sham and revealed deep flaws in the local government.

    But also he is a racist liar who picked a fight, panicked, and lied through his teeth about it.
     
  11. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Hardly. I'm trying to point out that for all the "inconsistencies" and "lies" by eyewitnesses, there were plenty of "inconsistencies" and "lies" perpetrated by the police. I think YF is highlighting the first and glossing over the second. The truth can't really be known because eyewitnesses are often mistaken by either not seeing everything that went on, molding events based on their own experience/bias, not understanding context of why the events are unfolding as they are and not knowing the thought process of those involved. You combine that with the piss-poor job the police did investigating this case and we are just have a pile of shit that is inflaming anger by a community.
     
  12. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Mike Brown was 0 for 2 in the same fucking at-bat.

    Strong-armed the grocer for the cigarellos. Strike 1.


    Told Wilson to go fuck himself when told to walk on the sidewalk. Strike 2.


    It's Mike Brown who felt like he could kick the world's ass that day, and yet Rick Stain, you're saying it's some rogue cop who picked a fight.

    I don't know if I can believe that, especially when the cop had just come from the scene of a choking 2-month-old. It goes against human nature, to be in that kind of a scene, to all of a sudden switch to Provocateur of the Law. I don't buy it.
     
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