Ferguson / Staten Island Decisions -- No Indictments

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Here's what happened to a Staten Island guy when a frustrated cop didn't find anything in a search of his car...



http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11/staten_island_mans_teeth_embed.html#incart_river

 

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This one is incredible. (I am not a Michael Brown/Feguson sympathiszer). Unless the video has some stop action (takes frames at a slower rate or something else) - the cops were shooting within two seconds of arriving.

 

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So we're supposed to ignore the tape showing Brown grabbing the store clerk and pushing him into the rack of munchies. Sorry, just because you choose to ignore that doesn't mean we sane people have to.

 

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Bullshit. You are assuming incorrectly. Although it's often advisable for a criminal defendant not to testify, that does NOT apply to a case like this where he's to mount a defense of deadly force justification based on the deceased's conduct, with the shooter as the sole source of most of the justification story.

If he didn't testify, he'd have no way of getting in evidence of the alleged grabbing of the gun, the "go fuck yourself", the supposedly fearing for his life, the "you're too much of a pussy to shoot", the "grunting noise", the charge, and all the other fantastical details of his "attacked by crazy black man" story.

He absolutely would've testified. And, yes, he wouldve gotten utterly scorched on cross examination.

 

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Everyone of these hoodlums who set cars and buildings on fire in Ferguson and elsewhere should be arrested and sent to prison for at least a decade. Inexcusable.

 

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Conor Fridersdorf says police reform is much bigger than Michael Brown.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/11/the-case-for-police-reforms-is-much-bigger-than-michael-brown/383210/?single_page=true

He's right, of course. One only needs to look at the examples he posts of police officers going overboard, including one in which the DA ruled it justified... and that case, the person the cop shot was WHITE.

But hey, do what the cops say or it's your own fucking fault. Hell, the white dude who got shot probably ran in front of the cop's car when he was a tyke running into the street to go get his ball and the cop remembered how wrong that brat was not to look both ways before crossing a street. Those people turn into thugs, you know.

 

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Sorry, but it's entirely possible to lay the groundwork for a self-defense claim during the state's case-in-chief.

 

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Yes, the police are out of control. Not just in Ferguson, but all sorts of places.

Yes, the judicial system is run by whites and whites are treated differently than blacks or Hispanics.

But, no, it doesn't mean society should become a free-for-all and you burn down stuff just because you're mad.

 

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Brown's blood in the vehicle, various eyewitness accounts that support Wilson's case, Brown's toxicology reports, the video of him robbing the clerk to counter someone testifying that he was "getting his life in order."

Various ways for him to make his case without him taking the stand.

 

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By "groundwork", do you mean the details in his story that I just described? If so, how?

 

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What does any of this have to do with burning and stealing other people's stuff? Whether Wilson was too quick to shoot because he was not objectively scared or he was only subjectively scared when he shot has nothing to do with why people are burning and stealing. I don't recall Gandhi or King stealing Ciroc or Hennessy to make their point.

 

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The "reaching into the waistband" thing is such a staple of the "racist cop making shit up" repertoire because it not only implies that their life was in danger, it implicitly calls to mind images of scary black gang members holding guns in their pants.