Ferguson / Staten Island Decisions -- No Indictments

Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

Please show your evidence of this. I would love to know how you can prove what Wilson's line of thinking was here. I really would.
The fact that you are ASSUMING Wilson's thought that his life was in danger came because of Brown's race is, perhaps, the most racist thing said in this thread.
You have no way of knowing if that was the factor that put the fear in Wilson's mind. How about the enormous size advantage? How about the fact that he was alone and by himself against two individuals who may or may not have been dangerous? How about the theory (I won't say fact even if the evidence does) that Brown beat his ass inside his cruiser?
Just because YOU think Wilson made his decision based on some bullshit stereotypes about black men does not, I REPEAT, does not make it a fact.
You have no way of knowing what Wilson's thought process was because, guess what, you're not Wilson.
So why don't you send $20 to Al Sharpton, pat yourself on the back for being morally superior to the rest of us and stop projecting your idiotic worldview on the rest of us?

 

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The "no way of knowing" thing is just bullshit people perpetrate when they know that every available piece of evidence points to something and they want to retreat to some sort of philosophical "well, we don't *really* know anything..."

 

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Enormous size advantage? Wilson himself is 6-foot-4.

 

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Sorry Rick, but no, you are wrong about this. There is evidence that suggests Wilson is lying, or at least way off in his perceptions. Where is the evidence of racism on his part?

 

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His lying included a large number of classical code words to describe the racist view of black male youth.

He described himself as a "five year old against Hulk Hogan," he described Brown as making a sound like an animal, as looking like a "demon", he goes with the stereotypical "he reached into his waistband" (which is clearly a lie, because Brown had no reason to do so, not carrying a gun himself."

 

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The way this alleged "size advantage" thing has been spun and exaggerated is such bullshit. Fact is, BOTH of these guys were unusually large men, there was no "enormous size advantage", but you don't hear that mentioned as often, do you?

Brown was only about an inch taller than Wilson, and it appears any weight gap between the two came mainly in the form of lard. If Wilson was that intimidated by the size of a guy an inch taller than him then he had no business becoming a cop.

 

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But what if there was some other characteristic of Brown that made him *seem* bigger and scarier? That might explain why he described it that way despite being about the same size?

 

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We have several people on this thread who are quick to point out that Brown did not raise his hands in surrender. Can these folks also acknowledge that Brown did not reach to his waistband for an imaginary weapon? Because the evidence supporting each claim is basically about the same.

 

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Again, still plenty of room for doubt with anybody willing to be reasonable. Is it possible? Sure. But to say there is no doubt? Sure seems like desperation to prop up the narrative that you favor.

 

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That last bit may be where the truth lies.

 

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I'm happy to agree that there are people on both sides of this discussion talking out of their asses. Does that help?

 

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I don't see a functional difference here between "certain" and "whatever level of doubt would allow for such a bizarre set of circumstances to put him right in the middle of a racist culture, act in a way that seems impacted by race, lie in a way that seems to be impacted by race, but not actually impact by race and it's all just a huge coincidence."