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Ferguson / Staten Island Decisions -- No Indictments

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Nov 16, 2014.

  1. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Argument from ignorance fallacy followed by grain/pile of sand fallacy.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Articulate the "problem" Rick. What is it? And, what would you propose be done to lessen the problem.
     
  3. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Stop shooting unarmed people.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    No matter what? Are there no circumstances where the shooting of an unarmed person could be justified?

    It's a ridiculous statement, and you'd realize it if you gave it a second's thought.

    A police force could not do its job if it could never shoot an unarmed person.
     
  5. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    More like, stop shooting black people for no reason other than they're black. But, I know that never happens. ::)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaaeXIg9kSk

    Before anyone says anything, I'm not comparing this shooting to the Wilson-Brown shooting except this way: Without video, I guarantee this cop's version of the story would sound almost identical to Wilson's, and there's no way he'd be charged with a felony right now.
     
  6. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Tamir Rice.
     
  7. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Wifey was watching Nancy Grace the other night and I passed the room.
    I watched just long enough to see that fat troll pretending to cry while interviewing Brown's parents- nauseating.
    I consider myself an open-minded person IRL and am not afraid to reverse positions, even if previously tightly held.
    I want to understand the Brown family's viewpoint, but when the family says the grand jury report is full of lies, where do I go with that?
    There just isn't any way to learn where the "opposing side" is coming from because I now believe it to be purely cultural, too entrenched.
     
  8. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Here we go. Rick was happy to make assumptions earlier, but now he wants to question every bit of evidence if the narrative isn't the one he likes.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Someone should tell the criminals that also. Here's a stat to ponder:
    In 2011, when 91 percent of black murder victims nationally were killed by other African-Americans.

    or this:

    In New York City, blacks made up 23 percent of the population in 2013, but suffered 62 percent of the homicides. Whites, at 44 percent of the population, numbered only 7.2 percent of murder victims
     
  10. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    That's ... an interesting interpretation of what happened.
     
  11. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    If we can't stop criminals from committing crimes, we shouldn't even bother trying to stop authorities from doing things we don't want them to do?
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Re: Ferguson Decision -- No Indictment

    Unarmed teens kill man:

    If the cops had happened upon the scene, they clearly would have been in the wrong if they had shot the unarmed suspects.
     
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