Finally someone at ESPN with a rational take on the Amechie non-story

Sorry holy rollers of every religion..... I think you are all compensating for a lack of something between the ears.

 

Broussard's phony iconoclasm would compel a lot more if he'd also:

- called for the execution of children who strike a parent (Exodus 21: 15, 17)
- defended the slave-master's right to beat his slave without mercy since "the slave is his money" (Exodus 21:21)
- called for the destruction of anyone who worships any other god (Exodus 22:20)
- blasted people who eat shellfish
- noted the uncleanliness of any menstruating woman or those who touch them (Leviticus 15:19-32)
- acknowledged that dwarfs, the blind or other "limited" people cannot be priests (Leviticus 21: 17-21)
- advocated the execution of blasphemers (Leviticus 24:16)
- noted that a man can force his wife to drink the "water of bitterness" and that if she dies, that proves she's an adulterer (Numbers 5: 11-31)
- defended men's rights to sell their daughters into sexual slavery (Exodus 21:7-11)
- noted that Jews are the children of the devil and the fathers of lies (John 8:39-44)

Broussard yearns for a victimhood equal to that of others because he follows one absurdist and self-contradictory (if often beautiful) book that even he doesn't really follow. It's preposterous, and unserious in rational discussion.

 

C'mon Double Espresso, he's a born-again Christian. He's better than us! (Ed's note: I don't believe born-agains all feel that way, I just hate when people like Broussard declare themselves such. Why not just say I'm a Christian in an intro like that, unless you want people to think you're holier)

 

There is nothing more ridiculous than someone pulling scriptures completely out of context, both within the context with which they were writtern and the context of the times they were written in -- then using this as an arguement for accusing Christians of doing the same thing.

Further, it is even more laughable when a bunch of liberals, particularly secular and/or atheistic ones, somehow try and draw a parrallel between homosexuality and race. There is NOT ONE shred of SOLID, irrefutable evidence, scientific and/or biological or otherwise that has been accepted that homosexuality is anything other than a lifestyle choice and/or preference. You can rant and rave as much as you want, but that much is a fact.

And perhaps the best thing is one person on here tried to use the old tired "well are we supposed to accept the views of Nazi's and/or the confederacy" as if that has anything to do with it.

Christians, religious people, evangelicals and/or whatever you want to call them outnumber atheists and/or homosexuals by a helluva lot, probably 10 to 1 in this country. So you tell me what is more mainstream -- a lifestyle of a very, very small group that has become the new wedge issue of the politically correct Hollywood Elite and the psuedo intellectuals, or a lifestyle that is practiced every day by an overwhelming majority of people but is hated by those opinion makers in Hollywood and in our classrooms because it undermines all of their ridiculous "progressive" ideas about sex, love and rock n roll?

And the homosexual marriage thing -- I'm not even sure how that got brought up because it isn't really relevant to this discussion. Oh that's right, I forgot, that's the new battle cry of the politically correct -- you are oppressing homosexuals by not letting them get married.

I'll say this once for the cheap seats -- I don't care who you marry and don't understand why it is an issue. Remember this when you try to wedge me in on that issue.

 

Oh OK, now I understand -- it is the height of arrogance to declare your religious allegiance, but you are a hero if you tell the world what gender you like to have sex with.......

That makes sense.

I love liberal thought -- you don't have to have any standards, any codes -- just go with the flow and say what's on your mind and it has to be true. And if anyone disagrees with you they are "phobic" mean-spirited and hateful.

It is classic -- it is how the abortion debate -- the question of which is the morality of killing a child and when does life begin -- got all cleaned up and turned into a question of a woman's choice.

As long as liberals and the politically correct among us are allowed to frame every debate, whether it be about race, about homosexuality, about abortion -- about whatever, it will always be set up so anyone who disagrees is a bigot.

 

I'm not sure how the homosexual marriage thing got brought up either, zagoshe, except that it was talked about in the article you linked to on the thread you started.

 

In which part of that Bell Curve shall we locate Ted Haggard?

 

"rational" = Scripture-based

 

I'm neither secular nor an atheist.

But tell me, zag, if it turned out that homosexuality is genetic-- let's say they were able to ID the gene tomorrow-- would that change your opinion?

 

Oh wait I missed this gem -- which might be the most asinine thing I've ever read....

"99 percent of gay people just want what Broussard, even as a black man, already has: The opportunity to get married, serve in the military, adopt kids, have the person they love be covered by the health insurance offered by their employer, have the person they love by their side in the hospital if they get sick, have the opportunity to pass on their assets to the person they love when they die."

Outside of getting married, which I have already said they should be allowed to, explain to me again -- without all of the mythic "people are mean to me" whiny shit -- why homosexuals can't do anything else on that list?"

Homosexuals are allowed in the military -- they just can't advertise what they prefer to do nor should they. Nor should straight guys. Nor should guys who wan't to sleep with sheep.

Homosexuals adopt kids every day.

Just about every place outside of religiously affiliated institutioins have domestic partners laws making health benefits available to all.

Anybody -- family or not -- can be at your side in the hospital at your request and you can leave your fortune to Miss Piggy if you'd like.

So really all of this "oppressed" shit comes down to the marriage thing. And to try and compare this to the civil rights struggles of black folks in this country is just disingenious "nitwittery"

One last point -- the reason I call this a non-story is because it is being completely driven by a so-called news outlet trying to sell books and there is nothing new or groundbreaking or courageous about a former athlete telling the world -- as if we give a shit -- that he/she is a homosexual.

If this book were not underwritten by ESPN, how much play would this story receive on that World Wide Leader which to me is the biggest issue of all. It is like ESPN is doing everything in its power -- even pulling "gotcha" type interview questions and hoping to get a Tim Hardaway-like response -- to keep this thing alive so that the book will sell but they are doing it under the guise that they are somehow being noble and politically correct.

 

Double,

As a journalist, you should care more for truth than you espouse in your post. All but the final scripture you reference were laws for a certain time and a certain nation. Nothing else. They do not apply now.

The final scripture is so twisted out of shape, you miss the whole point. Jesus, a Jew, would not be calling Jews "the children of the devil." He was speaking to the religious leaders who rested in their heritage for salvation. They claimed their lineage from Abraham gave them salvation.

The "children of the devil" applies to all who reject God, both Jew and Gentile.

If you don't believe the Bible, that's your choice. But twisting verses out of their context is not intellectually honest.

 

That was nice how you completely and cowardly ignored the points that both Fenian and I made, that you're perfectly capable and allowed to find gay sex icky and gross, and base those beliefs on a book written thousands of years ago, but it crosses the line when you try to deny homosexuals equal protection and equal rights. You don't have to have gay friends, zag. You don't have to suck cock. You don't even have to watch the L Word and get a stiffy in your HeMan pajamas. You just have to be willing to guarantee them the same rights you have as an American. And if you're so fed up with Hollywood and the liberals who run the place, why don't conservatives band together and start your own Hollywood? Or newspapers? You've got all the money. All you need now are the ideas.