FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

GeorgeFHayek · Jan 10, 2013

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Alma said:

The most troubling graf:

And though suicide rates were lower in the United States, firearm suicide rates were six times higher.
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Not being snarky here, but I have a hard time getting bent out of shape about the fact that: 1) in the U.S. the preferred suicide method among the under-50 crowd tends toward firearms; when 2) the suicide rate among the under-50 crowd in the U.S. isn't all that (relatively) high.

Captain Obvious · Jan 10, 2013

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YankeeFan said:

The good news is that he's still eligible to be Secretary of Defense:

The Christian minister selected by President Obama to deliver the benediction at his inaugural this month has withdrawn from the program amid a storm of controversy over remarks he made about homosexuality in a sermon in the mid-1990s, according to a source close to the inaugural committee.

The minister, the Rev. Louie Giglio, founder of the Passion Conferences, an Atlanta organization that brings college students together in prayer and worship, withdrew Thursday morning, a day after the sermon came to light.

In it, Mr. Giglio called on fellow Christians to fight the “aggressive agenda” of the gay-rights movement, and advocated “the healing power of Jesus” as “the only way out of a homosexual lifestyle” – a comment some gay-rights advocates interpreted as an endorsement of reparative, or so-called gay-to-straight conversion, therapy, as a supposed cure for homosexuality.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/us/politics/minister-withdraws-from-inaugural-program-after-controversy-over-comments-on-gay-rights.html?hp&_r=0
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So much concern for gay rights. You'd think some conservatives would be overjoyed.

YankeeFan · Jan 10, 2013

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Captain Obvious said:

So much concern for gay rights. You'd think some conservatives would be overjoyed.
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Overjoyed by what?

The guy sounds like an idiot. Who vetted him?

Alma · Jan 10, 2013

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GeorgeFHayek said:

Alma said:

The most troubling graf:

And though suicide rates were lower in the United States, firearm suicide rates were six times higher.
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Not being snarky here, but I have a hard time getting bent out of shape about the fact that: 1) in the U.S. the preferred suicide method among the under-50 crowd tends toward firearms; when 2) the suicide rate among the under-50 crowd in the U.S. isn't all that (relatively) high.
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It's not as high because people die other ways so...efficiently.

GeorgeFHayek · Jan 10, 2013

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Alma said:

GeorgeFHayek said:

Alma said:

The most troubling graf:

And though suicide rates were lower in the United States, firearm suicide rates were six times higher.
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Not being snarky here, but I have a hard time getting bent out of shape about the fact that: 1) in the U.S. the preferred suicide method among the under-50 crowd tends toward firearms; when 2) the suicide rate among the under-50 crowd in the U.S. isn't all that (relatively) high.
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It's not as high because people die other ways so...efficiently.
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Come on. I don't doubt that the pool of potential suicides is diminished by other premature deaths, but these are measured in age-adjusted deaths per 100,000 (the U.S. rate is 10 per, btw), so at most we'd be talking about a fraction of a fraction of a fraction. There's no way that the U.S. suicide rate is materially lower than Japan's (around 20 per) or Finland's (around 18 per) simply because more people have died in other ways.

dog eat dog world · Jan 10, 2013

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Captain Obvious said:

YankeeFan said:

The good news is that he's still eligible to be Secretary of Defense:

The Christian minister selected by President Obama to deliver the benediction at his inaugural this month has withdrawn from the program amid a storm of controversy over remarks he made about homosexuality in a sermon in the mid-1990s, according to a source close to the inaugural committee.

The minister, the Rev. Louie Giglio, founder of the Passion Conferences, an Atlanta organization that brings college students together in prayer and worship, withdrew Thursday morning, a day after the sermon came to light.

In it, Mr. Giglio called on fellow Christians to fight the “aggressive agenda” of the gay-rights movement, and advocated “the healing power of Jesus” as “the only way out of a homosexual lifestyle” – a comment some gay-rights advocates interpreted as an endorsement of reparative, or so-called gay-to-straight conversion, therapy, as a supposed cure for homosexuality.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/us/politics/minister-withdraws-from-inaugural-program-after-controversy-over-comments-on-gay-rights.html?hp&_r=0
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So much concern for gay rights. You'd think some conservatives would be overjoyed.
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This reverse therapy that gays find so repugnant, what business is it of theirs that he has this? Is it not the choice of the individual, if he or she so desires, to seek this? Why would "they" be so afraid and so agitated by this that they would try to deny others the chance to try it? Yeah, liberty is only a selective notion in that part of the liberal lollipop world. Always has been, always will be.

dog eat dog world · Jan 10, 2013

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I'd just as soon the Messiah put his hand on the latest memo of Dailykos.

Azrael · Jan 10, 2013

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Ted Haggard agrees/disagrees.

www.christianpost.com/news/ted-haggard-says-gay-marriage-not-biblical-but-should-be-legal-83710/

dog eat dog world · Jan 10, 2013

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That is irrelevant to my point....the gay political arm's pissy fit over reverse therapy.

Captain Obvious · Jan 10, 2013

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Azrael said:

Ted Haggard agrees/disagrees.

www.christianpost.com/news/ted-haggard-says-gay-marriage-not-biblical-but-should-be-legal-83710/
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Great. I appreciate candor from a guy who said he had a "massage that went awry."

Azrael · Jan 10, 2013

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dog eat dog world said:

That is irrelevant to my point....the gay political arm's pissy fit over reverse therapy.
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How would you feel if gays started grabbing Christians off the street to start "deprogramming" them?

Captain Obvious · Jan 10, 2013

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Azrael said:

dog eat dog world said:

That is irrelevant to my point....the gay political arm's pissy fit over reverse therapy.
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How would you feel if gays started grabbing Christians off the street to start "deprogramming" them?
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Gay brainwashing is a common screed among reactionary social conservatives

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